20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament

[Compassionist]

Please see Do you agree? Do you disagree? If you disagree, what is the basis for your disagreement?

[brunumb]

So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.

Yeah, really loving of him to set Satan loose to wreck people's lives once again. This God is the epitome of evil.

[JoeyKnothead]

All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.

I don't test my son's faith in me.

I give him a reason.

[JehovahsWitness]

Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.

You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

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It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.

Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?

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Jesus died (ceased to exist anywhere in any form / was in SHOEL/HADES/[bible] "HELL"*) and three days later was resurrected (bought back to life).


* all referencing the condition the dead (human or animal)


JW

[TRANSPONDER]

Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.

You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

.

It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.

Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?

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All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.

These are merely faithclaims. Not to say preaching rather than discussion. Why should we credit any of this? You may say: 'your choice', but again, which choice? If we all get this afterlife, why do beliefs matter, and if a religious Faith matters, why Christianity rather than any of the others? You see - validating your religious claims is what matters, not explaining your dogma to us.

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #153]

No, even aside it was not actually three days later (though once can wangle 'on the third day, just about (1) the resurrection is not only not credible, but debunkable. To anyone with their ears , eyes, braon and throat open so I can ram my Pet Theory down it.

You can't ram the pet theories about Hell, no matter what word you use for it, down our throats, either. This is merely faithclaims without a shred of decent evidence for it.

(1) and commemoration is a bit of a sham, just as Christmas, and don't even think of trying to validate the date through checking the table of first century eclipses. The Dark is a miracle of god, not a natural coincidence, and John of course doesn't mention it at all.

[Miles]

Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.

You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

.

It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.

Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?

.

Jesus died (ceased to exist anywhere in any form / was in SHOEL/HADES/[bible] "HELL"*) and three days later was resurrected (bought back to life).


* all referencing the condition the dead (human or animal)

Fine, but it doesn't say a thing about Jesus being involved in anyone else surviving the "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity."

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[kjw47]

Even the false scholars know it was the fallen angel-satan who spoke through the serpent.

Please answer the question. Where is the evidence that an angel spoke through the serpent?

Serpents cant speak-thus 1+1= 2

Or as I say, it is a tall story, like a lot of Genesis. Why should I think the talking serpent story is true?

Your life everlasting is on the line, you tell me why you should believe?

So is yours, if Islam is true. Tell me why you don't believe that religion. Hint - we already did 'Muslims don't recognise Jesus' (yours or someone else). and that doesn't work. Not least because the Jews don't either so that's Christianity outvoted.

Bottom double line 'Which god?' and Pascal's wager is a fail.

True God worship history= a single being God= YHWH(Jehovah) whosent his son-Jesus the Messiah on mankinds behalf. Much more than a mere prophet.

You are simply asserting the Christian claims as true. As I said, both Islam and Judaism reject this. Why do you believe Christianity and reject Islam? The point being that unless you have very sound reasons for doing so (more than just faithclaims) your 'Life' is as much under threat as mine. even without getting into whether you have the right denomination of Christianity or even the right Scriptual Interpretation.

"Hi. welcome to Hell, first day? What are you in for?"

"Idolatry, lying, Blaspheming, fornication and drunkenness. What are you in for?"

"Misinterpreting 'Aios'."

Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.

I never claimed there was.

Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.

You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

.

It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.

Don't read too much into that as a metaphor, I'm surprised by how much events in my surroundings intrude into my sleep. But that aside, what's your point?

There is no life in death.

[kjw47]

So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.

Yeah, really loving of him to set Satan loose to wreck people's lives once again. This God is the epitome of evil.

Yes very loving to give them a second chance with no satan influences to distract them They must be tested to prove their faithfulness. God is making 100% sure this system never occurs again. He is always right.

[kjw47]

Sheol( Hebrew) = Hades( Greek) = Hell= the grave. There is no life in death.

You seem to be saying that

Sheol = the grave
Hades = the grave
Hell = the grave

And no one survives death in any form. Is this correct?

.

It is correct. There would no sense of death if one went on. There is no life in death. Jesus likened it to sleep. One is not aware of ones surroundings in sleep.

Assuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?

.

All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.

These are merely faithclaims. Not to say preaching rather than discussion. Why should we credit any of this? You may say: 'your choice', but again, which choice? If we all get this afterlife, why do beliefs matter, and if a religious Faith matters, why Christianity rather than any of the others? You see - validating your religious claims is what matters, not explaining your dogma to us.

Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.

[JoeyKnothead]

Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.

We've been last daysing it for two thousand years now, don't rob the kid's college fund just yet.