Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone. This is a self-evident contradiction.
Creation Order Contradiction
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction
Post #11You have repeated your case without addressing the problem.JoeMama wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:05 am [Replying to bjs1 in post #2]
Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone.
Yes, according to Genesis God created animals before the first man. When the first man was created he was with the animals. He was still alone, because a person who is with only animals and not people is alone. We need community with other people. Animals are not a suitable alternative.
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Post #12Hmm. Not so fast.bjs1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:47 amYou have repeated your case without addressing the problem.JoeMama wrote: ↑Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:05 am [Replying to bjs1 in post #2]
Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone.
Yes, according to Genesis God created animals before the first man. When the first man was created he was with the animals. He was still alone, because a person who is with only animals and not people is alone. We need community with other people. Animals are not a suitable alternative.
Genesis 2:7
7 Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nose, and the man became a living thing.
7 Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nose, and the man became a living thing.
Later on (12 verses later)
Genesis 2:19
19 The Lord God used dust from the ground and made every animal in the fields and every bird in the air. He brought all these animals to the man, and the man gave them all a name.
19 The Lord God used dust from the ground and made every animal in the fields and every bird in the air. He brought all these animals to the man, and the man gave them all a name.
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Post #13[Replying to JoeMama in post #1]
Please recreate your thread in a debate subforum with an explicit question to debate.
Please recreate your thread in a debate subforum with an explicit question to debate.
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Post #14[Replying to Miles in post #12]
bjs1 wrote:
" a person who is with only animals and not people is alone"
JoeMama responds:
You underestimate the comfort man's best friend brings to a lonely man.
bjs1 wrote:
" a person who is with only animals and not people is alone"
JoeMama responds:
You underestimate the comfort man's best friend brings to a lonely man.
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Post #15Yes, the human mind is delusional on this topic. The perverse love of dogs over people is not a sign of man not being alone - but a sign of man being alone and seeking the wrong things.JoeMama wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:48 pm [Replying to Miles in post #12]
bjs1 wrote:
" a person who is with only animals and not people is alone"
JoeMama responds:
You underestimate the comfort man's best friend brings to a lonely man.
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Post #16That's relative.
I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.
Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
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Post #17That's inane. All things being equal the point stands.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:06 pmThat's relative.
I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.
Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
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Post #18You'd rather share a prison cell with a father raper, than to pet a kitten?Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:16 pmThat's inane. All things being equal the point stands.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:06 pmThat's relative.
I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.
Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
I can't even process that.
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Post #19In a normal situation that exception makes no sense.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:33 pmYou'd rather share a prison cell with a father raper, than to pet a kitten?Wootah wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:16 pmThat's inane. All things being equal the point stands.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:06 pmThat's relative.
I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.
Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
I can't even process that.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Post #20I'm aware many Christians can't make sense of the words and ideas put before them. Dictionaries are a great tool for understanding what words mean, and after a bit of trying, you can take that knowledge and find out what a whole sentence means. Then once you've got understanding sentences down, you'll ask yourself why the fuss about paragraphs.
My point is that where you said or implied that it's better to be among humans than critters, there's exceptions that put the lie to the claim.
With that in mind, and after trying my best to explain the concepts involved, I'll ask again...
Would you rather pet a kitten, or be locked in a prison cell with a father raper?
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