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Creation Order Contradiction

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Creation Order Contradiction

God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27

The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:

However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:

God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19

Man could not have been alone if he was never alone. This is a self-evident contradiction.

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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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JoeMama wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:05 am [Replying to bjs1 in post #2]

Creation Order Contradiction

God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27


The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:

However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:

God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19

Man could not have been alone if he was never alone.
You have repeated your case without addressing the problem.

Yes, according to Genesis God created animals before the first man. When the first man was created he was with the animals. He was still alone, because a person who is with only animals and not people is alone. We need community with other people. Animals are not a suitable alternative.
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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bjs1 wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 9:47 am
JoeMama wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:05 am [Replying to bjs1 in post #2]

Creation Order Contradiction

God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27


The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:

However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:

God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19

Man could not have been alone if he was never alone.
You have repeated your case without addressing the problem.

Yes, according to Genesis God created animals before the first man. When the first man was created he was with the animals. He was still alone, because a person who is with only animals and not people is alone. We need community with other people. Animals are not a suitable alternative.
Hmm. Not so fast.

Genesis 2:7
7 Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man He breathed the breath of life into the man’s nose, and the man became a living thing.

Later on (12 verses later)

Genesis 2:19
19 The Lord God used dust from the ground and made every animal in the fields and every bird in the air. He brought all these animals to the man, and the man gave them all a name.

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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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[Replying to JoeMama in post #1]

Please recreate your thread in a debate subforum with an explicit question to debate.

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[Replying to Miles in post #12]

bjs1 wrote:

" a person who is with only animals and not people is alone"

JoeMama responds:

You underestimate the comfort man's best friend brings to a lonely man.

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JoeMama wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:48 pm [Replying to Miles in post #12]

bjs1 wrote:

" a person who is with only animals and not people is alone"

JoeMama responds:

You underestimate the comfort man's best friend brings to a lonely man.
Yes, the human mind is delusional on this topic. The perverse love of dogs over people is not a sign of man not being alone - but a sign of man being alone and seeking the wrong things.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:50 pm Yes, the human mind is delusional on this topic. The perverse love of dogs over people is not a sign of man not being alone - but a sign of man being alone and seeking the wrong things.
That's relative.

I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.

Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:06 pm
Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:50 pm Yes, the human mind is delusional on this topic. The perverse love of dogs over people is not a sign of man not being alone - but a sign of man being alone and seeking the wrong things.
That's relative.

I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.

Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
That's inane. All things being equal the point stands.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:16 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:06 pm
Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:50 pm Yes, the human mind is delusional on this topic. The perverse love of dogs over people is not a sign of man not being alone - but a sign of man being alone and seeking the wrong things.
That's relative.

I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.

Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
That's inane. All things being equal the point stands.
You'd rather share a prison cell with a father raper, than to pet a kitten?

I can't even process that.
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:33 pm
Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:16 pm
JoeyKnothead wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 7:06 pm
Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 6:50 pm Yes, the human mind is delusional on this topic. The perverse love of dogs over people is not a sign of man not being alone - but a sign of man being alone and seeking the wrong things.
That's relative.

I'd much rather hang out in the barn with pigs, than sit in church with all that carrying on.

Or how about petting a puppy instead of attending a MAGA rally? Pet a kitten, or share a prison cell with a father raper?
That's inane. All things being equal the point stands.
You'd rather share a prison cell with a father raper, than to pet a kitten?

I can't even process that.
In a normal situation that exception makes no sense.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Creation Order Contradiction

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Wootah wrote: Thu Apr 13, 2023 8:08 pm In a normal situation that exception makes no sense.
I'm aware many Christians can't make sense of the words and ideas put before them. Dictionaries are a great tool for understanding what words mean, and after a bit of trying, you can take that knowledge and find out what a whole sentence means. Then once you've got understanding sentences down, you'll ask yourself why the fuss about paragraphs.

My point is that where you said or implied that it's better to be among humans than critters, there's exceptions that put the lie to the claim.

With that in mind, and after trying my best to explain the concepts involved, I'll ask again...

Would you rather pet a kitten, or be locked in a prison cell with a father raper?
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