Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone. This is a self-evident contradiction.
Creation Order Contradiction
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Post #2An animal is not human. Until there was a second person, Adam was alone. One of the central messages of this passage is that a person who is only with animals is still alone. We need other people. We need community. There is no healthy substitute.JoeMama wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 1:14 pm Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone. This is a self-evident contradiction.
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction
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What I've always considered to be the creation order contradiction was the order in which man and animals were created.
Genesis 1 order: Animals then Man
Genesis 1:20-21, 24, 26-27
20Then God said, “Let the water be filled with many living things, and let there be birds to fly in the air over the earth.”
21 So God created the large sea animals.[e] He created all the many living things in the sea and every kind of bird that flies in the air. And God saw that this was good.
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24 Then God said, “Let the earth produce many kinds of living things. Let there be many different kinds of animals. Let there be large animals and small crawling animals of every kind. And let all these animals produce more animals.” And all these things happened.
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26 Then God said, “Now let’s make humans who will be like us. They will rule over all the fish in the sea and the birds in the air. They will rule over all the large animals and all the little things that crawl on the earth.”
27 So God created humans in his own image. He created them to be like himself. He created them male and female.
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Genesis 2 order: Man then Animals
Genesis 2:7, 19
7 Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man.
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19 The Lord God used dust from the ground and made every animal in the fields and every bird in the air. He brought all these animals to the man, and the man gave them all a name.
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What I've always considered to be the creation order contradiction was the order in which man and animals were created.
Genesis 1 order: Animals then Man
Genesis 1:20-21, 24, 26-27
20Then God said, “Let the water be filled with many living things, and let there be birds to fly in the air over the earth.”
21 So God created the large sea animals.[e] He created all the many living things in the sea and every kind of bird that flies in the air. And God saw that this was good.
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24 Then God said, “Let the earth produce many kinds of living things. Let there be many different kinds of animals. Let there be large animals and small crawling animals of every kind. And let all these animals produce more animals.” And all these things happened.
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26 Then God said, “Now let’s make humans who will be like us. They will rule over all the fish in the sea and the birds in the air. They will rule over all the large animals and all the little things that crawl on the earth.”
27 So God created humans in his own image. He created them to be like himself. He created them male and female.
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Genesis 2 order: Man then Animals
Genesis 2:7, 19
7 Then the Lord God took dust from the ground and made a man.
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19 The Lord God used dust from the ground and made every animal in the fields and every bird in the air. He brought all these animals to the man, and the man gave them all a name.
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction
Post #4"It's weird how they messed up the order god created stuff" is far less problematic for me than the claim God created anything.
If willing to buy into a sentient entity creating an entire universe, the order in which he did it ain't gonna cause a bit of fuss.
Then, of course, there's, "What they really mean", which is the greatest escape clause since no fault divorce.
If willing to buy into a sentient entity creating an entire universe, the order in which he did it ain't gonna cause a bit of fuss.
Then, of course, there's, "What they really mean", which is the greatest escape clause since no fault divorce.
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Post #5[Replying to JoeMama in post #1]
There are billions of people on earth and people often feel alone. Being alone, ironically, has little to do with what is actually around you.
There are billions of people on earth and people often feel alone. Being alone, ironically, has little to do with what is actually around you.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Post #6God said, It is not good that the man should be aloneWootah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:54 pm [Replying to JoeMama in post #1]
There are billions of people on earth and people often feel alone. Being alone, ironically, has little to do with what is actually around you.
Genesis 2:18-19
When Adam was the only living animal (yes) then it makes sense to describe him as being alone. It does not say "It is not good that the man should feel lonely".
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Post #7How is Adam alone if God is there? The point is that Adam is not an animal and so was alone. Made in the image of God he was alone.brunumb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:07 pmGod said, It is not good that the man should be aloneWootah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:54 pm [Replying to JoeMama in post #1]
There are billions of people on earth and people often feel alone. Being alone, ironically, has little to do with what is actually around you.
Genesis 2:18-19
When Adam was the only living animal (yes) then it makes sense to describe him as being alone. It does not say "It is not good that the man should feel lonely".
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Creation Order Contradiction
Post #9God says he is alone.Wootah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:30 pmHow is Adam alone if God is there? The point is that Adam is not an animal and so was alone. Made in the image of God he was alone.brunumb wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:07 pmGod said, It is not good that the man should be aloneWootah wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:54 pm [Replying to JoeMama in post #1]
There are billions of people on earth and people often feel alone. Being alone, ironically, has little to do with what is actually around you.
Genesis 2:18-19
When Adam was the only living animal (yes) then it makes sense to describe him as being alone. It does not say "It is not good that the man should feel lonely".
You say he is not alone.
Then you say he is not an animal so he is alone.
Pretzels anyone?
As for "Made in the image of God he was alone", you've completely lost me.
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Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone.
Creation Order Contradiction
God made the animals and God said, Let us make man.
Genesis 1:25-27
The Genesis 1 author above said God made animals, then he made man. So, according to that author, man was never alone on Earth because animals were already on Earth when God made man:
However, the Genesis 2 author below said man definitely WAS alone:
God said, It is not good that the man should be alone
Genesis 2:18-19
Man could not have been alone if he was never alone.