It's now time to lay down some unfalsifiable assertions --- (just like many theists here do)....
1. The devil exists...
2. God exists....
3. God grants the devil freewill
4. The devil has the ability to deceive humans
5. The devil wants to deceive humans
6, The devil has above human powers --- (i.e.) can be in more than one place at once, etc etc etc etc.....
For debate: Jesus was actually the devil in disguise. No Messiah has come yet. The Orthodox Jews are still more right than you are. Please prove me wrong; aside from appealing to 'faith'.
This way, the devil can hang back and simply watch, as many place allegiance to the wrong dude/deity/other.
Flipping the 'Script'
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Post #1In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."
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Post #2They are also unprovable, or do you have proof that:
?1. The devil exists...
2. God exists....
3. God grants the devil freewill
4. The devil has the ability to deceive humans
5. The devil wants to deceive humans
6, The devil has above human powers --- (i.e.) can be in more than one place at once, etc etc etc etc.....
But they're your assertions so the burden of proof is yours. Prove your statements here are true.For debate: Jesus was actually the devil in disguise. No Messiah has come yet. The Orthodox Jews are still more right than you are. Please prove me wrong; aside from appealing to 'faith'.
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Post #3Allow me to elaborate. My assertions are unfalsifiable. Since they are unfalsifiable, I can state them safely. The challenge is posed to the Christian, who already believes/assumes in (god/devil) concepts. Do you and I believe points 1 through 6? Likely not. The purpose of this exercise is to get the Christian to merely demonstrate what is posed in the debate challenge.Miles wrote:Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:10 pmThey are also unprovable, or do you have proof that:
?1. The devil exists...
2. God exists....
3. God grants the devil freewill
4. The devil has the ability to deceive humans
5. The devil wants to deceive humans
6, The devil has above human powers --- (i.e.) can be in more than one place at once, etc etc etc etc.....
Again, like Christisans assume, that 1-6 are 'proven', what is to stop the devil from impersonating a messiah?Miles wrote:Mon Apr 03, 2023 5:10 pmBut they're your assertions so the burden of proof is yours. Prove your statements here are true.For debate: Jesus was actually the devil in disguise. No Messiah has come yet. The Orthodox Jews are still more right than you are. Please prove me wrong; aside from appealing to 'faith'.
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In case anyone is wondering... The avatar quote states the following:
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."
"I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness."
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Post #4[Replying to POI in post #1]
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