Just WHO is God?

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Just WHO is God?

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In world religion there all kinds of Gods.
I, personally, have examined most of them and found them lacking.
Then I come to 'Christian' religion, and find that the majority of them don't know God at ALL!
I think one can have a serious debate on THIS site!

The Bible= Jehovah (Name removed by most 'Christian' churches)
Churchianity= there's Three!

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[Replying to MadJW in post #1]
To answer the question:

God is the Father, YHWH (Jehovah). Jesus enunciated this in prayer to his God and Father: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3, KJV)

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Not understanding. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean? How can a word be god? Could the Word have been anything else other than god? Was god anything more than the Word?


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Miles wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:08 pm .
Not understanding. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean? How can a word be god? Could the Word have been anything else other than god? Was god anything more than the Word?


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Both Moses and Jesus represented Jeovah at that time, and are thus called God because that's where they got their Authority,

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MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:40 pm
Miles wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:08 pm .
Not understanding. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean? How can a word be god? Could the Word have been anything else other than god? Was god anything more than the Word?


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Both Moses and Jesus represented Jeovah at that time, and are thus called God because that's where they got their Authority,
Maybe someone else will take a stab at answering my questions.

1. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean?

2. How can a word be god?

3. Could the Word have been anything else other than god?

4. Was god anything more than the Word?

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Miles wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:49 pm
MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:40 pm
Miles wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:08 pm .
Not understanding. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean? How can a word be god? Could the Word have been anything else other than god? Was god anything more than the Word?


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Both Moses and Jesus represented Jeovah at that time, and are thus called God because that's where they got their Authority,
Maybe someone else will take a stab at answering my questions.

1. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean?

2. How can a word be god?

3. Could the Word have been anything else other than god?

4. Was god anything more than the Word?

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"Stab" is correct...

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John 1:1c - "and the Word was a god"

All 18 parallel constructions to John 1:1c in John's writings are translated as indefinite count nouns (e.g., "a prophet," "a man," "a king," etc.,).
http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com ... 11c-a.html

Men (including judges, kings, prophets, etc.) and angels have been called gods by God and his inspired writers.
http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com ... study.html

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MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:00 pmMaybe someone else will take a stab at answering my questions.
1. Exactly what does "The Word was god" mean?
Considering the similarity of John's Logos theology to Philo's conception of the Logos, it probably means that "the Word" is the aspect of God that acts as a mediary between the divine and the profane as creator, sustainer, and salvific agent. Since God cannot be separated into components, this mediary must itself be God.

MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:00 pm
2. How can a word be god?
Considering that you were just asserting that a god is just a really important person, that question seems intentionally a bit obtuse.

MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:00 pm
3. Could the Word have been anything else other than god?
Sure. It could have been a horse, a pickle, or a stick, but that's not what the Gospel of John says.

MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:00 pm
4. Was god anything more than the Word?
Yes.
My pronouns are he, him, and his.

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tigger 2 wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:25 pm John 1:1c - "and the Word was a god"

All 18 parallel constructions to John 1:1c in John's writings are translated as indefinite count nouns (e.g., "a prophet," "a man," "a king," etc.,).
http://examiningthetrinity.blogspot.com ... 11c-a.html
Why?
Of the 62 Bibles I checked none use the indefinite article "a" before "god." Only in John 1:1 of the New World Translation does one find "a god." Why? What is the significant difference in denotation between "god" and "a god" in the verse?

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MadJW wrote: Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:00 pm "Stab" is correct...

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