God Explained Genetics to Moses

[JoeMama]

Jacob took fresh-cut branches from trees and made white stripes on them by peeling the bark and exposing the white inner wood. Then he placed the peeled branches in all the watering troughs, so that they would be seen by the sheep when they came to drink. When the flocks came to drink and mated in front of the branches, they bore young [that were striped]. (Genesis 30:37-39)

Did God breathe this story into Moses’ ear as an example of genetics at work?

[JehovahsWitness]

So, we wouldn't know if Jesus coming back to life was due to God - because Corrolation doesn't mean Causation, right?

WHO RAISED JESUS FROM THE DEAD?


Scripturally speaking, Christ has ALREADY come back to life; and this is explicitly stated as being the result of divine action. As far as the bible is concerned there is no ambiguety as to the cause of Christ's resurrection.

ACTS 2:32

God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.

ACTS 3:15

Whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses

HEBREWS 13:20

Now the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep through the blood of the eternal covenant, even Jesus our Lord,

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[TRANSPONDER]

But why should we believe the claims of the Bible? Even if these recorded events were in any way reliable, the conclusions about the process are the opinions of the writers. This happens all the time - the Book, the veracity of the claims of which are being questioned, is used as evidence for the veracity of the Book. Ultimate circular argument.

[1213]

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"... the flocks bred in front of the [striped] sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted."*

If you believe the Bible, the meaning is clear; Jacob made striped sticks, faced the flock toward the sticks "and so the flocks brought forth striped" goats. ...

Why you cut out the important part, that the sticks were in the drinking water?

[Diogenes]

...
"... the flocks bred in front of the [striped] sticks and so the flocks brought forth striped, speckled, and spotted."*

If you believe the Bible, the meaning is clear; Jacob made striped sticks, faced the flock toward the sticks "and so the flocks brought forth striped" goats. ...

Why you cut out the important part, that the sticks were in the drinking water?

Because what I quoted demonstrates the point of this subtopic, that Genesis talks about magical thinking by just having the goats look at the striped sticks. Then the sticks were put in water and indeed, they may have added some beneficial nutrients that helped their growth, but have nothing to do with affecting genes so the new goats were striped . . . unless... are you going to tell us about a way drinking "striped stick water" could alter their genes in a single generation.

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to Diogenes in post #34]

Yep. It seems to me that evasive fiddling is futile as either the color -change happens through just looking at the sticks - which is magic, or it was because the striped sticks affected the water which affected the animals. So effecting an unknown and (apparently) impossible genetic effect, which means a miracle again.

So what is going on is an effort to try to make this scientifically credible with a genetic change caused by putting striped sticks in the water trough. It doesn't matter than no such effect is known or even deemed possible. It has to be so because the Bible says so.

Odd ain't it? A postulated self - replication of DNA as yet unknown and undemonstrated is dismissed as impossible even though it (Abiogenesis) is more hypothetically possible than genetic change from striped sticks in the drinking - water. Seems pretty clear that what is considered scientifically or logically possible or impossible, depends more on the Believers' preferences than on what is scientifically credible or not.

cue..the demons' dohnut ....reject science and rely on miracles, or pretend that science supports the Bible..."Mmmmmm...forbidden dooohhnut..."



I resisted the obvious posting of the Clip, I did, but then...I devoured MY forbidded donut, and shall carry the brand to my grave...

And since I'm doomed anyway....


I shall also answer to the Judge of Good Taste and the demon of the Obvious... my only defernse being that top tens are not only educational (this one may be a mustwatch) but a lot of people hate 'em,

[JoeMama]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #6]

"As long as people believed in the miraculous inspiration of the Holy Scriptures, of course they accepted every page as literally true, and thought that there could not be any contradiction between the different accounts or representations of Scripture. The worst of all such pre-conceived ideas is, that they compel those who hold them to do violence to their own sense of truth. When so-called religious prejudices come into play, people are afraid to call things by their right names, and without knowing it themselves, become guilty of all kinds of evasive and arbitrary practices; for what would be thought quite unjustifiable in any other case is here considered a duty, inasmuch as it is supposed to tend toward the maintenance of faith and the glory of God!" --T.W. Doane, "Bible Myths and Their Parallels in Other Religions."