Jesus is God - the tabernacle

[Wootah]

In Exodus

God rescues the people.

God leads them out of Egypt

Moses talks to God on a mountain.

God agrees to dwell with the people and live in a tent, the tabernacle in the middle of Israel.

This sets up the idea that God used a tent and embodied that tent in the old testament as a way of relating to his people.

Then in the new testament, we are told Jesus tabernacled with us

John 1:14 ERV And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

You can see the greek and other translations here

https://biblehub.com/john/1-14.htm#lexicon
https://biblehub.com/john/1-14.htm

When we get to the greek word for dwelt among us they use the word here, to dwell as a tent

made His dwelling
ἐσκήνωσεν (eskēnōsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 4637: To dwell as in a tent, encamp, have my tabernacle. From skenos; to tent or encamp, i.e. to occupy or, to reside.

This seems a very deliberate phrasing connecting Jesus to the Tabernacle where God dwells. Just like the Tabernacle is God among his people, so too Jesus is God among his people and this time God does not come and go but stays.

Jesus is God.

Yes/No? Why?

[1213]

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Jesus is God.

Yes/No? Why?

Because Jesus says in the Bible:

Jesus said to her, Do not touch Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father. But go to My brothers and say to them, I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and My God, and your God.
John 20:17

My Father is greater than I.
John 14:28

And this is everlasting life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
John 17:3

I think all interpretations saying Jesus is the God, are wrong.

[onewithhim]

In Exodus

God rescues the people.

God leads them out of Egypt

Moses talks to God on a mountain.

God agrees to dwell with the people and live in a tent, the tabernacle in the middle of Israel.

This sets up the idea that God used a tent and embodied that tent in the old testament as a way of relating to his people.

Then in the new testament, we are told Jesus tabernacled with us

John 1:14 ERV And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us (and we beheld his glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father), full of grace and truth.

You can see the greek and other translations here

https://biblehub.com/john/1-14.htm#lexicon
https://biblehub.com/john/1-14.htm

When we get to the greek word for dwelt among us they use the word here, to dwell as a tent

made His dwelling
ἐσκήνωσεν (eskēnōsen)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Active - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 4637: To dwell as in a tent, encamp, have my tabernacle. From skenos; to tent or encamp, i.e. to occupy or, to reside.

This seems a very deliberate phrasing connecting Jesus to the Tabernacle where God dwells. Just like the Tabernacle is God among his people, so too Jesus is God among his people and this time God does not come and go but stays.

Jesus is God.

Yes/No? Why?

What you say is a stretch. It shows your furtive imagination. Jehovah "dwelt" with Israel in the Tabernacle, not that he was actually there, but his spirit was there. How could a tent accomodate the almighty, glorious, creator of the universe? (IKings 8:27) Anyway, to compare Jesus with this tabernacle is purely imaginative. He dwelt here among humans, but it's quite a stretch to see him as God. Jehovah and Jesus are two separate Beings. Explain Isaiah 61:1,2 and Psalm 110. Jehovah is speaking to the Messiah, and sending the Messiah, and anointing the Messiah.

[Ross]

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

The Word was God
The Word became flesh
God became flesh

He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

Although the world was made through The Word, the world did not recognise what about him?

That he was God.

[Wootah]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #3]

I think that is the first time a JW has seen the connection. Thank you.

[Wootah]

[Replying to 1213 in post #2]

Good points. All arguments need to be taken in the wider bible context.

How about addressing the argument?

A counter argument could be that in Greek or at that time when they talked about each other they used that word.

So you could prove that Jimmy lived in the Decopolis and dwelt among us was a common expression.

But this link shows other times that word is used and it is basically all about God dwelling with man.

https://www.billmounce.com/greek-dictionary/skenoo

[myth-one.com]

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was God. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."

The Word was God
The Word became flesh
God became flesh

He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

Although the world was made through The Word, the world did not recognize what about him?

That he was God.

Welcome Ross.

Yes, the Word is God and existed from the beginning with God the Father. And God and the Word are spiritual bodied beings which live forever.

When the Word was made a flesh and blood natural bodied being named Jesus Christ, The Word continued to exist in Heaven as a spiritual bodied being as He is immortal.

The Word made or become flesh was a separate human natural bodied being which can die, namely Jesus Christ.

The Word existed from the beginning and forever after as a spirit.

Jesus existed for about 33 years as a human being.

Both existed during the 33 years of Jesus' life as separate beings.

[Wootah]

Any rebuttals?

Especially read the usage of the word in Greek.

[1213]

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But this link shows other times that word is used and it is basically all about God dwelling with man.
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Bible tells God dwells in Jesus, and Jesus is a man, it can be said God is dwelling with man.

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:10

[Wootah]

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But this link shows other times that word is used and it is basically all about God dwelling with man.
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Bible tells God dwells in Jesus, and Jesus is a man, it can be said God is dwelling with man.

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
John 14:10

One God. Trinitarian passage.

How is Jesus in the Father in any other way that is not blasphemy?