So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

[LittleNipper]

Presented here, so that we may have a place to start is one biochemist's (Dr, Sy Garte) journey from staunch atheist to firm believer: So, why are you a believer, or what would you need to become a believer in some Creator GOD.

[boatsnguitars]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #11]

One would only have to read about Mohammed. He was involved with the Quran around 610 - 632 AD. This was years after the Bible was sealed with the closing of the book of Revelations around 95AD. I place the Gnostic texts, the Quran, and the Book of Mormon in the very same light. They are not inspired; however, they may contain inspired references from the Bible in an effort to gain validity.

Meaning you suspect that Moroni and the other Nephite Prophets lied when they took the effort of inscribing the Golden Plates in Reformed Egyptian?
Then you must explain why all this prophets worked so hard only for a lie!

You also think Mohammed thought up himself the holy Quran?
But if you really think that you have to explain why in this case the Archangel Gabriel who appeared to him in a cave, as a historical fact, would appear to a liar.
And even in this case: What then did the Archangel Gabriel teach Mohammed? Stephensons "Treasure Island"?

All what prophets? The Mormon founder Joseph Smith became the Nauvoo Legion, militia commander, and was styled the Lieutenant General. As such, he controlled by far the largest body of armed men in Illinois. Mohammed wanted to combine the Jews and the Christians under his control, but he was rejected. So, it would seem entirely a matter of control regarding false prophets. They wish power. They want to be in charge. They write their books in competition with the Bible. And if you notice. GOD came to Mr. Smith. and told him to reject all other beliefs and then Moroni an angel came and tells Mr. Smith where to find what would become the Book of Mormon, and shows Mr. Smith how to translate the found plates-----no one else was allowed to do it ---- only Mr. Smith.

Lookee here: I find it sad that I have it to explain for rather intelligent people like you but . .

---- only Mr. Smith had his First Vision not once but several Times, aged back and forth while having the lot of them and also had his First Vision always different.
That it was possible for ---- only Mr. Smith to have his First Vision (normally logically an one time event) More than once and in diffrent ways and lifeages is a miracle of God in itself that should erase your doubts.

---- only Mr. Smith was deemed worthy by the angel Moroni to unearth the Golden Plates from the Hill Cumorah!

---- only Mr. Smith understood perfectly the lost language Reformed Egyptian!

---- only Mr. Smith owned the Urim and Thummin needed to decipher the Golden Plates.

---- only Mr. Smith could see the Holy Letters in his Magical hat owned by ---- only Mr. Smith.

That Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is the ultimate proof that there were real prophests back then, because Moroni himself was one of them.

The fact that Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is proof enough that all is true, for ---- only Mr. Smith was worth to receive and master all of that because ---- only Mr. Smith was the greatest Prophet of all time because that is written from his own hand in the Joseph Smith bible, restored in the way it was written by Jesus personally!!!

I know that you are being facetious. I enjoy good sarcasm. And I realize that you know that Jesus didn't actually write any of the New Testament personally. The HOLY SPIRIT cause CHRIST's some among HIS disciples to remember and write down what HE had said after HE ascended back into heaven. John 14:26
But THE COMFORTER (also known as the HOLY SPIRIT), whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I've been telling you. John 16:17 But I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I am leaving; for if I do not leave, THE HELPER will not come to you; but if I go, I will send HIM to you.

So, you believe John 16:17 because he wrote it down, but not Joseph Smith? He wrote down that you could believe him. What's the difference here?

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #11]

One would only have to read about Mohammed. He was involved with the Quran around 610 - 632 AD. This was years after the Bible was sealed with the closing of the book of Revelations around 95AD. I place the Gnostic texts, the Quran, and the Book of Mormon in the very same light. They are not inspired; however, they may contain inspired references from the Bible in an effort to gain validity.

Meaning you suspect that Moroni and the other Nephite Prophets lied when they took the effort of inscribing the Golden Plates in Reformed Egyptian?
Then you must explain why all this prophets worked so hard only for a lie!

You also think Mohammed thought up himself the holy Quran?
But if you really think that you have to explain why in this case the Archangel Gabriel who appeared to him in a cave, as a historical fact, would appear to a liar.
And even in this case: What then did the Archangel Gabriel teach Mohammed? Stephensons "Treasure Island"?

All what prophets? The Mormon founder Joseph Smith became the Nauvoo Legion, militia commander, and was styled the Lieutenant General. As such, he controlled by far the largest body of armed men in Illinois. Mohammed wanted to combine the Jews and the Christians under his control, but he was rejected. So, it would seem entirely a matter of control regarding false prophets. They wish power. They want to be in charge. They write their books in competition with the Bible. And if you notice. GOD came to Mr. Smith. and told him to reject all other beliefs and then Moroni an angel came and tells Mr. Smith where to find what would become the Book of Mormon, and shows Mr. Smith how to translate the found plates-----no one else was allowed to do it ---- only Mr. Smith.

Lookee here: I find it sad that I have it to explain for rather intelligent people like you but . .

---- only Mr. Smith had his First Vision not once but several Times, aged back and forth while having the lot of them and also had his First Vision always different.
That it was possible for ---- only Mr. Smith to have his First Vision (normally logically an one time event) More than once and in diffrent ways and lifeages is a miracle of God in itself that should erase your doubts.

---- only Mr. Smith was deemed worthy by the angel Moroni to unearth the Golden Plates from the Hill Cumorah!

---- only Mr. Smith understood perfectly the lost language Reformed Egyptian!

---- only Mr. Smith owned the Urim and Thummin needed to decipher the Golden Plates.

---- only Mr. Smith could see the Holy Letters in his Magical hat owned by ---- only Mr. Smith.

That Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is the ultimate proof that there were real prophests back then, because Moroni himself was one of them.

The fact that Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is proof enough that all is true, for ---- only Mr. Smith was worth to receive and master all of that because ---- only Mr. Smith was the greatest Prophet of all time because that is written from his own hand in the Joseph Smith bible, restored in the way it was written by Jesus personally!!!

I know that you are being facetious. I enjoy good sarcasm. And I realize that you know that Jesus didn't actually write any of the New Testament personally. The HOLY SPIRIT cause CHRIST's some among HIS disciples to remember and write down what HE had said after HE ascended back into heaven. John 14:26
But THE COMFORTER (also known as the HOLY SPIRIT), whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I've been telling you. John 16:17 But I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I am leaving; for if I do not leave, THE HELPER will not come to you; but if I go, I will send HIM to you.

So, you believe John 16:17 because he wrote it down, but not Joseph Smith? He wrote down that you could believe him. What's the difference here?

Well, part of the difference is that John with the HOLY SPIRIT to inspire him wrote the book of John. John actually knew Jesus. He walked along with Him while he was on this earth. Mr. Smith, claims that an angel showed him where the plates were and then Mr. Smith apparently used his hat to decipher/translate what the plates said. Mr. Smith didn't write the supposed book of Mormon. And it seems odd that GOD could not have used multiple believers to do what Joseph Smith supposedly did. I mean the entire Bible is made up of the writings of say 40 individuals. Even while Moses penned the first 5 books of the Bible (he didn't copy someone else's work). Aaron was the first high priest, and Joshua was the second in command and became the general. GOD didn't stick everything in the hands of one individual.

[boatsnguitars]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #11]

One would only have to read about Mohammed. He was involved with the Quran around 610 - 632 AD. This was years after the Bible was sealed with the closing of the book of Revelations around 95AD. I place the Gnostic texts, the Quran, and the Book of Mormon in the very same light. They are not inspired; however, they may contain inspired references from the Bible in an effort to gain validity.

Meaning you suspect that Moroni and the other Nephite Prophets lied when they took the effort of inscribing the Golden Plates in Reformed Egyptian?
Then you must explain why all this prophets worked so hard only for a lie!

You also think Mohammed thought up himself the holy Quran?
But if you really think that you have to explain why in this case the Archangel Gabriel who appeared to him in a cave, as a historical fact, would appear to a liar.
And even in this case: What then did the Archangel Gabriel teach Mohammed? Stephensons "Treasure Island"?

All what prophets? The Mormon founder Joseph Smith became the Nauvoo Legion, militia commander, and was styled the Lieutenant General. As such, he controlled by far the largest body of armed men in Illinois. Mohammed wanted to combine the Jews and the Christians under his control, but he was rejected. So, it would seem entirely a matter of control regarding false prophets. They wish power. They want to be in charge. They write their books in competition with the Bible. And if you notice. GOD came to Mr. Smith. and told him to reject all other beliefs and then Moroni an angel came and tells Mr. Smith where to find what would become the Book of Mormon, and shows Mr. Smith how to translate the found plates-----no one else was allowed to do it ---- only Mr. Smith.

Lookee here: I find it sad that I have it to explain for rather intelligent people like you but . .

---- only Mr. Smith had his First Vision not once but several Times, aged back and forth while having the lot of them and also had his First Vision always different.
That it was possible for ---- only Mr. Smith to have his First Vision (normally logically an one time event) More than once and in diffrent ways and lifeages is a miracle of God in itself that should erase your doubts.

---- only Mr. Smith was deemed worthy by the angel Moroni to unearth the Golden Plates from the Hill Cumorah!

---- only Mr. Smith understood perfectly the lost language Reformed Egyptian!

---- only Mr. Smith owned the Urim and Thummin needed to decipher the Golden Plates.

---- only Mr. Smith could see the Holy Letters in his Magical hat owned by ---- only Mr. Smith.

That Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is the ultimate proof that there were real prophests back then, because Moroni himself was one of them.

The fact that Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is proof enough that all is true, for ---- only Mr. Smith was worth to receive and master all of that because ---- only Mr. Smith was the greatest Prophet of all time because that is written from his own hand in the Joseph Smith bible, restored in the way it was written by Jesus personally!!!

I know that you are being facetious. I enjoy good sarcasm. And I realize that you know that Jesus didn't actually write any of the New Testament personally. The HOLY SPIRIT cause CHRIST's some among HIS disciples to remember and write down what HE had said after HE ascended back into heaven. John 14:26
But THE COMFORTER (also known as the HOLY SPIRIT), whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I've been telling you. John 16:17 But I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I am leaving; for if I do not leave, THE HELPER will not come to you; but if I go, I will send HIM to you.

So, you believe John 16:17 because he wrote it down, but not Joseph Smith? He wrote down that you could believe him. What's the difference here?

Well, part of the difference is that John with the HOLY SPIRIT to inspire him wrote the book of John. John actually knew Jesus. He walked along with Him while he was on this earth. Mr. Smith, claims that an angel showed him where the plates were and then Mr. Smith apparently used his hat to decipher/translate what the plates said. Mr. Smith didn't write the supposed book of Mormon. And it seems odd that GOD could not have used multiple believers to do what Joseph Smith supposedly did. I mean the entire Bible is made up of the writings of say 40 individuals. Even while Moses penned the first 5 books of the Bible (he didn't copy someone else's work). Aaron was the first high priest, and Joshua was the second in command and became the general. GOD didn't stick everything in the hands of one individual.

religion... smh...

I'm not sure if you are for real or a Poe, but this is what is going on:

One guy writes a claim in a book: "I believe it! He says he knew Jesus!"
Another guy writes a claim in a book: "That's a ridiculous claim! He didn't even meet Jesus - just an angel!"


Honestly, it's painful to see the motivated reasoning so obvious and flawed. There is literally no logic behind it.

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to boatsnguitars in post #11]

One would only have to read about Mohammed. He was involved with the Quran around 610 - 632 AD. This was years after the Bible was sealed with the closing of the book of Revelations around 95AD. I place the Gnostic texts, the Quran, and the Book of Mormon in the very same light. They are not inspired; however, they may contain inspired references from the Bible in an effort to gain validity.

Meaning you suspect that Moroni and the other Nephite Prophets lied when they took the effort of inscribing the Golden Plates in Reformed Egyptian?
Then you must explain why all this prophets worked so hard only for a lie!

You also think Mohammed thought up himself the holy Quran?
But if you really think that you have to explain why in this case the Archangel Gabriel who appeared to him in a cave, as a historical fact, would appear to a liar.
And even in this case: What then did the Archangel Gabriel teach Mohammed? Stephensons "Treasure Island"?

All what prophets? The Mormon founder Joseph Smith became the Nauvoo Legion, militia commander, and was styled the Lieutenant General. As such, he controlled by far the largest body of armed men in Illinois. Mohammed wanted to combine the Jews and the Christians under his control, but he was rejected. So, it would seem entirely a matter of control regarding false prophets. They wish power. They want to be in charge. They write their books in competition with the Bible. And if you notice. GOD came to Mr. Smith. and told him to reject all other beliefs and then Moroni an angel came and tells Mr. Smith where to find what would become the Book of Mormon, and shows Mr. Smith how to translate the found plates-----no one else was allowed to do it ---- only Mr. Smith.

Lookee here: I find it sad that I have it to explain for rather intelligent people like you but . .

---- only Mr. Smith had his First Vision not once but several Times, aged back and forth while having the lot of them and also had his First Vision always different.
That it was possible for ---- only Mr. Smith to have his First Vision (normally logically an one time event) More than once and in diffrent ways and lifeages is a miracle of God in itself that should erase your doubts.

---- only Mr. Smith was deemed worthy by the angel Moroni to unearth the Golden Plates from the Hill Cumorah!

---- only Mr. Smith understood perfectly the lost language Reformed Egyptian!

---- only Mr. Smith owned the Urim and Thummin needed to decipher the Golden Plates.

---- only Mr. Smith could see the Holy Letters in his Magical hat owned by ---- only Mr. Smith.

That Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is the ultimate proof that there were real prophests back then, because Moroni himself was one of them.

The fact that Moroni appeared to ---- only Mr. Smith is proof enough that all is true, for ---- only Mr. Smith was worth to receive and master all of that because ---- only Mr. Smith was the greatest Prophet of all time because that is written from his own hand in the Joseph Smith bible, restored in the way it was written by Jesus personally!!!

I know that you are being facetious. I enjoy good sarcasm. And I realize that you know that Jesus didn't actually write any of the New Testament personally. The HOLY SPIRIT cause CHRIST's some among HIS disciples to remember and write down what HE had said after HE ascended back into heaven. John 14:26
But THE COMFORTER (also known as the HOLY SPIRIT), whom the Father will send in my name, HE shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I've been telling you. John 16:17 But I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I am leaving; for if I do not leave, THE HELPER will not come to you; but if I go, I will send HIM to you.

So, you believe John 16:17 because he wrote it down, but not Joseph Smith? He wrote down that you could believe him. What's the difference here?

Well, part of the difference is that John with the HOLY SPIRIT to inspire him wrote the book of John. John actually knew Jesus. He walked along with Him while he was on this earth. Mr. Smith, claims that an angel showed him where the plates were and then Mr. Smith apparently used his hat to decipher/translate what the plates said. Mr. Smith didn't write the supposed book of Mormon. And it seems odd that GOD could not have used multiple believers to do what Joseph Smith supposedly did. I mean the entire Bible is made up of the writings of say 40 individuals. Even while Moses penned the first 5 books of the Bible (he didn't copy someone else's work). Aaron was the first high priest, and Joshua was the second in command and became the general. GOD didn't stick everything in the hands of one individual.

religion... smh...

I'm not sure if you are for real or a Poe, but this is what is going on:

One guy writes a claim in a book: "I believe it! He says he knew Jesus!"
Another guy writes a claim in a book: "That's a ridiculous claim! He didn't even meet Jesus - just an angel!"


Honestly, it's painful to see the motivated reasoning so obvious and flawed. There is literally no logic behind it.

Honestly, Joseph Smith claimed to be a prophet. What does the Bible say about prophets? Deuteronomy 13:1-5
“If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, ‘Let us go after other gods,’ which you have not known, ‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you, to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the Lord your God and fear him and keep his commandments and obey his voice, and you shall serve him and hold fast to him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has taught rebellion against the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of slavery, to make you leave the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.

Here is what Mr. Smith taught and the LDS still accept it: https://www.ldsliving.com/3-fascinating ... ob/s/82249

Deuteronomy 18:22
When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.

Here is what Joseph Smith prophesied and the results that prove him to be a false prophet according to the Bible: https://coldcasechristianity.com/writin ... eph-smith/

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #9]

What Jesus seem to be indicating is that if someone turns his nose up at the Word of GOD he is as good as in hell already. There's nothing that will convince him...

One usual side benefit of not believing that gods exist is also the belief that hell does not exit (or heaven, devils, etc.). So being in "hell" isn't really a threat to worry about. But as for your example of someone adopting a religion when before they didn't, there are plenty of examples of the opposite. In my case I was raised in a very Christian household, believed it all for the most part as a kid, was "saved" and all the rest of it. Everyone I knew was a Christian of some sort.

Then I went to college, finished my education, and got a job where I met a Hindu couple from India. After many lunch conversations with them I realized I had never really studied religion as a subject or considered the different religions of the world, their basis, doctrines, etc. This was before the internet, so I spent time in a library educating myself on the different religions of the world, the many different god concepts and their histories., and it became clear to me that they could not all possibly be true. My Hindu friends were just as absolutely, positively convinced their views were correct, to the same level as all the Christians I grew up with. You can say this about most religious people ... they are convinced only their god(s) are real, and their religion correct, to the exclusion of all others.

After some time, I became convinced that the only explanation that was consistent with everything we know about gods, afterlives, etc. was that they don't exist. It explained the whole subject (to me), so I became an atheist in my mid 20s. Nearly 40 years later I have yet to see or learn anything to change that position. It wasn't a matter of "turning his nose up to the Word of GOD" as you put it, but taking stock of the whole situation and coming to the conclusion that gods most likely do not exist, and never did.

Since your view was swayed by a Hindi, perhaps the changed perception of a Hindi will get you to rediscover that there are major differences regarding faith. A person may believe in the gods but how he or she perceives him or herself in relationship to such can be mechanical and founded on TRADITIONS rather than on a personal relationship with GOD the FATHER. Traditions do not improve one's relationship with GOD but rather require one to earn his place with GOD. One cannot be good enough to please GOD. Please regard the following:

[Miles]

So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

I believe it would be scientific proof (evidence collected and processed through the scientific method) that he exists. Short of that, nothing, except an abandonment of his/her secularism or an onset of delirium, dementia, or depression.

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[LittleNipper]

So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

I believe it would be scientific proof (evidence collected and processed through the scientific method) that he exists. Short of that, nothing, except an abandonment of his/her secularism or an onset of delirium, dementia, or depression.

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I think if you willingly watch this episode of the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special speaking with special guest William Lane Craig, you will get an honest well thought out view. I'm not saying that you will agree; however, Mr. Ben Shapiro is brilliant and Jewish and having a meaningful discussion with Mr. William Craig who is a very astute Christian. And the proof of GOD does come up, and there is a very logical reason for GOD. So, if you are indeed interested I would suggest listening to this discussion:

[Miles]

So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

I believe it would be scientific proof (evidence collected and processed through the scientific method) that he exists. Short of that, nothing, except an abandonment of his/her secularism or an onset of delirium, dementia, or depression.

.

I think if you willingly watch this episode of the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special speaking with special guest William Lane Craig, you will get an honest well thought out view. I'm not saying that you will agree; however, Mr. Ben Shapiro is brilliant and Jewish and having a meaningful discussion with Mr. William Craig who is a very astute Christian. And the proof of GOD does come up, and there is a very logical reason for GOD. So, if you are indeed interested I would suggest listening to this discussion:

I followed it up to the nine minuet mark, after which I realized Craig was clearly injecting an inappropriate god-bias into his argument. To wit.

Craig speaking-

"For me, my favorite argument for the existence of god that I find most compelling is a version of the cosmological argument, which goes like this:

1. whatever begins to exist has a cause [ . . . . .]

2. the universe began to exist [. . . . . ]

3.. therefore: the universe has a cause.

And when you do a conceptual analysis of what it is to be a cause of the universe you arrive at a being which is an uncaused, beginningless, timeless, spaceless, enormously powerful personal creator of the universe. So for me that is a very convincing argument for god."

Two questions for William Lane Craig:

1. Why would I necessarily arrive at a being? You never included a being in your syllogism, or made an argument for one.

2. Why would this being necessarily be a personal creator? You never included a personal creator in your syllogism, or made an argument for one.


Sloppy philosophizing or just sloppy logic? In any case I gotta give you an on this.

.

[DrNoGods]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #25]

Since your view was swayed by a Hindi ...

They practiced the Hindu religion, but may well have spoken Hindi (a language). But their religion wasn't the point ... it was that discussions with them first got me interested in studying the different religions and gods humans had invented and led me to conclude that none of them were likely to be valid.

... perhaps the changed perception of a Hindi will get you to rediscover that there are major differences regarding faith.

Again, the religion (Hindu) wasn't the point. They could have practiced any religion besides the one I was indoctrinated with as a child. The very fact that there are major differences regarding faith should make you question why that is, and what implications it has for any one religion or god being valid over any other (or whether any of them are valid at all).

A person may believe in the gods but how he or she perceives him or herself in relationship to such can be mechanical and founded on TRADITIONS rather than on a personal relationship with GOD the FATHER. Traditions do not improve one's relationship with GOD but rather require one to earn his place with GOD. One cannot be good enough to please GOD.

A lot of people just stay in the religion they were indoctrinated into as children and don't give it much thought. I knew plenty of people like this who just assume everything is as they'd been taught and follow along with the process throughout their lives. I decided to investigate the issue more and came to a different conclusion.

One cannot be good enough to please GOD.

It depends on how "GOD" is defined by the human(s) who invented it/them. Humans have invented thousands of gods over the millennia, with many different characteristics. The one thing they all have in common is being indistinguishable from nonexistence.

[LittleNipper]

So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?

I believe it would be scientific proof (evidence collected and processed through the scientific method) that he exists. Short of that, nothing, except an abandonment of his/her secularism or an onset of delirium, dementia, or depression.

.

I think if you willingly watch this episode of the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday Special speaking with special guest William Lane Craig, you will get an honest well thought out view. I'm not saying that you will agree; however, Mr. Ben Shapiro is brilliant and Jewish and having a meaningful discussion with Mr. William Craig who is a very astute Christian. And the proof of GOD does come up, and there is a very logical reason for GOD. So, if you are indeed interested I would suggest listening to this discussion:

I followed it up to the nine minuet mark, after which I realized Craig was clearly injecting an inappropriate god-bias into his argument. To wit.

Craig speaking-

"For me, my favorite argument for the existence of god that I find most compelling is a version of the cosmological argument, which goes like this:

1. whatever begins to exist has a cause [ . . . . .]

2. the universe began to exist [. . . . . ]

3.. therefore: the universe has a cause.

And when you do a conceptual analysis of what it is to be a cause of the universe you arrive at a being which is an uncaused, beginningless, timeless, spaceless, enormously powerful personal creator of the universe. So for me that is a very convincing argument for god."

Two questions for William Lane Craig:

1. Why would I necessarily arrive at a being? You never included a being in your syllogism, or made an argument for one.

2. Why would this being necessarily be a personal creator? You never included a personal creator in your syllogism, or made an argument for one.


Sloppy philosophizing or just sloppy logic? In any case I gotta give you an on this.

.

The Bible says that GOD is SPIRIT, so clearly, except what the MESSIAH emptied HIMSELF and took on a form of flesh to be both SON of GOD and SON of MAN, GOD isn't a human being. There nothing whatsoever "inappropriate" about a "GOD" bias point of view. If there were, then a secular point of view would be just as bias and unseemly. While YOU don't believe in the existence of GOD, doesn't make someone's view that includes one "inappropriate". Such might not be to your liking, but I can live with your "atheism", you should be able to bear someone's Christianity without stressing.