The Christian God

[POI]

For Debate

1) Is the claim for the Christian God demonstratable? If so, how?
2) Is the claim for the Christian God falsifiable? If so, how?

[POI]

Luckily Quran says that people should believe Jesus, so I should be fine.

And if the Quran instead says that people should NOT believe in Jesus, then what?

I cross the bridge when I come to it.

I'll answer for you. You would not follow it. Which means what the Quran actually says is irrelevant.

If Quran would say something that is in contradiction with the Bible, I would rather believe Bible

I rest my case. Please read what I wrote in red.

[1213]

...The Quran isa problem for Christianity ...

Sorry, I don't see any reason to think Quran is a problem. It tells people should believe Jesus, so for me it is fine. It seems to me that it is more a problem for atheists, because it kind of confirms Jesus.

[1213]

Luckily Quran says that people should believe Jesus, so I should be fine.

And if the Quran instead says that people should NOT believe in Jesus, then what?

I cross the bridge when I come to it.

I'll answer for you. You would not follow it. Which means what the Quran actually says is irrelevant.

If Quran would say something that is in contradiction with the Bible, I would rather believe Bible

I rest my case. Please read what I wrote in red.

It doesn't mean it is irrelevant what it says, because I think it is not reasonable to reject something without any idea of what it says.

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...The Quran isa problem for Christianity ...

Sorry, I don't see any reason to think Quran is a problem. It tells people should believe Jesus, so for me it is fine. It seems to me that it is more a problem for atheists, because it kind of confirms Jesus.

Again, odd reasoning from theists. It doesn't 'confirm' Jesus, it simply refers to Jesus as important to the religion. With your logic, Scientology confirms Xenu. Islam confirms Mohammad was the last prophet.
It's absurd that you need to play these mental gymnastics to support your faith.

[TRANSPONDER]

...The Quran isa problem for Christianity ...

Sorry, I don't see any reason to think Quran is a problem. It tells people should believe Jesus, so for me it is fine. It seems to me that it is more a problem for atheists, because it kind of confirms Jesus.

It kinda doesn't. He is NOT what the Christians claim. Now, your apologetic might fool some people who don't bother to look further, but those who check to see what the Muslims actually believe about Jesus will say "Hey, this dude tried to fool us" and like me, they may not care for people who try to bamboozle them.

That you stick fingers in ears and dismiss this as a problem for atheists, not for you, It isn't problem for atheists at all. The Quran doe NOT hold up Jesus as what the Christians believe. and we can show that to anyone willing to look. It is a problem for you whether or not you recognize it.

Muslims do not worship Jesus, who is known as Isa in Arabic, nor do they consider him divine, but they do believe that he was a prophet or messenger of God and he is called the Messiah in the Quran. (Wiki) The whole is worth reading, particularly how they openly borrowed from pre Islamic stories, like the one about Jesus making birds out of clay.

[POI]

Luckily Quran says that people should believe Jesus, so I should be fine.

And if the Quran instead says that people should NOT believe in Jesus, then what?

I cross the bridge when I come to it.

I'll answer for you. You would not follow it. Which means what the Quran actually says is irrelevant.

If Quran would say something that is in contradiction with the Bible, I would rather believe Bible

I rest my case. Please read what I wrote in red.

It doesn't mean it is irrelevant what it says, because I think it is not reasonable to reject something without any idea of what it says.

If it does not agree with the Bible, you reject it. This makes what the Quran says, irrelevant.

[1213]

...The Quran doe NOT hold up Jesus as what the Christians belie...

For me crucial thing is, what is actually said in the books, not what beliefs some may have. It is possible that people have non-Biblical beliefs and if they are in contradiction with the Bible, I think they are wrong.

By what I know, Quran doesn't say about Jesus things that are in contradiction with the Bible. But, if someone knows a real contradiction between them, I would like to see it.

[1213]

If it does not agree with the Bible, you reject it. This makes what the Quran says, irrelevant.

If it would be irrelevant, how could I know is it in contradiction with the Bible?

[POI]

If it does not agree with the Bible, you reject it. This makes what the Quran says, irrelevant.

If it would be irrelevant, how could I know is it in contradiction with the Bible?

Because you only adhere to what it says if it agrees with the Bible. Hence, just read the Bible.

[TRANSPONDER]

...The Quran doe NOT hold up Jesus as what the Christians belie...

For me crucial thing is, what is actually said in the books, not what beliefs some may have. It is possible that people have non-Biblical beliefs and if they are in contradiction with the Bible, I think they are wrong.

By what I know, Quran doesn't say about Jesus things that are in contradiction with the Bible. But, if someone knows a real contradiction between them, I would like to see it.

You could look it up yourself - as i did, rather than make claims that are not valid. You clearly don't know. True, some Christian apologists cherry pick the bits of the Quran that agree with Christianity and ignore those bits that disagree. Like Jesus (Isa) was a prophet of God (Allah) not a son of God or divine. They also deny that he died on the cross - that was someone else. But no doubt you will do as the Christian apologists do - claim the Quran confirms what the Bible says (in fact it merely borrows and adapts it to suit its'own beliefs) and dismiss anything that differs as wrong.

Surah An-Nisa 9. …and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so. Even those who argue for this crucifixion are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever—only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him. [Surah An-Nisa; 4:157]

7. Indeed, the example of Jesus in the sight of Allah is like that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be!” And he was! [Surah Ali-Imran; 3:59]