onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Oct 06, 2023 12:50 pm
...... We don't know why Jesus would not dare to rebuke Satan over Moses' body. There could have been reasons that are not written. It is certainly not enough to prove that Jesus is not Michael.
I would like to address this portion of your reply because during the time of the end, God has opened up much understanding from the scriptures, just as he said he would. (Daniel 12:8-10). Here is the context of your reply:
Jude 8–10 (KJV 1900)
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
Here we read of those who speak evil of those things which they know not. It's within this context that God gives us the example of Satan disputing about the body of Moses. When we look in the Bible to see how God defines the word "contending" we realize that it has to do with "judging", with "determining" something and with "calling (something) into question". In the context of Jude 9, it's the body of Moses which was called into question. And the only time the law comes into the picture is when it has been broken (1 Tim 1:9). Here is an example of how the word "contend" is used:
Acts 11:1–3 (KJV 1900)
And the apostles and brethren that were in Judaea heard that the Gentiles had also received the word of God. 2 And when Peter was come up to Jerusalem, they that were of the circumcision (THE JEWS) contended with him, 3 Saying, Thou wentest in to men uncircumcised, and didst eat with them.
We can see that these Jews did not understand what was taking place with the Word of God going forth to the whole world. So, based on what they knew not, they contended (went to the law) with Peter regarding his breaking of it (or so they thought).
But in Jude, why, of all things that could be given as an example of "speaking evil of things which they know not" would God use the accusation of the devil regarding the body of Moses? Not because it was God who burried Moses' body. There was nothing unlawful there to contend about. But Moses' body was the only one who was saved, then died and was resurected to receive his spiritual body. Moses appeared in the mount of transfiguration along with Elijah who was taken to heaven, (typifying the rapture). Since Elijah did not die, his body was not in question (the same with Enoch). Yet acording to the Bible, Christ was supposed to be the first to raise from the dead in his glorified spiritual body. Yet the account of the mount of transfiguration took place long before the cross of 33 AD.
If you recall the account of the gospel, the bodies of the dead dsidn't rise till after Christ rose first.
Matthew 27:52–53 (KJV 1900)
And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
But Moses was the one and only whose body was risen to his glorified spiritual body at the time of the transfiguration. Incidentally, that is the time Christ was also transfigured along with Moses and Elijah. This is why there was contention between the devil and Christ. yet all we read that happened is that Christ rebuked the devil. But why is that? Well, the answer takes us back to Daniel 12:8-10, in that there were many truths that God had kept sealed up within His Word. Things that no one could understand (saved or unsaved) until the time of the end. This meant that no one (including Satan) understood that Christ already died and paid for sins before the world began, and not at the cross. This means that Christ was indeed the first to rise from the dead in his glorified spiritual body, which means that Moses' resurrection was well within the allowance of the scriptures to appear before the cross of 33 AD. So, because Satan did not understand this, he brought his accusation (as he frequently does) and spoke evil of those things which he knew not. But, because the scriptures were still sealed at the time, God simply rebuked him for his false accusation. I hope this helps.
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