Was Jesus an angel?

[Wootah]

Hebrews 2:5 It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But there is a place where someone has testified:

“What is mankind that you are mindful of them,
a son of man that you care for him?
7 You made them a little[a] lower than the angels;
you crowned them with glory and honor
8 and put everything under their feet.”[c]

In putting everything under them,[d] God left nothing that is not subject to them.[e] Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them.[f] 9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

How can Jesus be an angel if he was temporarily lower than the angels?

Wouldn't it say he was temporarily the lowest of the angels?

[JehovahsWitness]

Jesus wasn't an angel when in earth ; he was a human.

(Since as a human being he was indeed lower than the angels, Jesus the man could not have been 100% man AND 100% God (since Almighty God is superior to any angel))

[1213]

Hebrews 2:5 It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But there is a place where someone has testified:

“What is mankind that you are mindful of them,
a son of man that you care for him?
7 You made them a little[a] lower than the angels;
you crowned them with glory and honor
8 and put everything under their feet.”[c]

In putting everything under them,[d] God left nothing that is not subject to them.[e] Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them.[f] 9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

How can Jesus be an angel if he was temporarily lower than the angels?

Wouldn't it say he was temporarily the lowest of the angels?

I don't think Bible says Jesus is an angel. But, maybe this depends on also, what is an angel?

[MissKate13]

One thing is certain. Jesus was not Michael, the archangel. To claim such is blatant false teaching. Jesus, the Word made flesh, created Michael.

John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

[Eddie Ramos]

Hebrews 2:5 It is not to angels that he has subjected the world to come, about which we are speaking. 6 But there is a place where someone has testified:

“What is mankind that you are mindful of them,
a son of man that you care for him?
7 You made them a little[a] lower than the angels;
you crowned them with glory and honor
8 and put everything under their feet.”[c]

In putting everything under them,[d] God left nothing that is not subject to them.[e] Yet at present we do not see everything subject to them.[f] 9 But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

How can Jesus be an angel if he was temporarily lower than the angels?

Wouldn't it say he was temporarily the lowest of the angels?

It's important to understand that an "angel" (whether in the Hebrew or the Greek) is also translated as "messenger", according to the Bible, and is used of the angelic ministering spirits (Heb 1:14), of people (like John the Baptist (Matt 11:10)), as well as of Christ (Malachi 3:1) who is the messenger/angel of the covenant. So, according to our authority, the Bible, Jesus is certainly referred to as an angel.

But in Hebrew 2:5-8 we read about Jesus being made a little lower than the angels, and we'll get into the reason the Bible tells us this.

Hebrews 2:5–8 (KJV 1900)
For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak. 6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him (not them)? or the son of man, that thou visitest him? 7 Thou madest him (not them) a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him (not them) with glory and honour, and didst set him (not them) over the works of thy hands: 8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his(not their) feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.


Now, what's intriguing is the source this is quoted from in the Old Testament scriptures. Let's read it:

Psalm 8:4–6 (KJV 1900)
4  What is man, that thou art mindful of him?
And the son of man, that thou visitest him?
5  For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels,
And hast crowned him with glory and honour.
6  Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands;
Thou hast put all things under his feet:

You would never notice the difference between the two and therefore miss the all important teaching here, unless you take the time to examine the original Hebrew text and discover that the word "angels" here is altogether a wrong translation. This is the Hebrew word transliterated as "elohim". This passage should say, "Thou madest him a little lower than GOD". So, in the Greek, we learn that Jesus was made a little lower than the angels, but here, a little lower than God.

And the one thing that the angels (not the fallen angels) and GOD have in common is that they have no sin. Christ (who knew no sin, because he is GOD) became sin for the express purpose of redeeming his chosen people. This is what made him a little lower than the angels as well as GOD. God humbled himself and became identified with sinful man.

Philippians 2:5–8 (KJV 1900)
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

And if we go back to Hebrews 2 and read verse 9, it confirms for us the reason for Jesus being made a little lower than the angels and God himself. It was for becoming sin and therefore suffering the penalty of sin.

Hebrews 2:9 (KJV 1900)
9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

And not only is Jesus referred to as an angel/messenger, but every angel named in the scriptures, is Christ himself (Gabriel, Michael) as well as every angel of the LORD. Christ has manifested himself via many different ways in order to conceal many spiritual truths, as well as to teach many spiritual truths.

[MissKate13]

Jesus wasn't an angel when in earth ; he was a human.

(Since as a human being he was indeed lower than the angels, Jesus the man could not have been 100% man AND 100% God (since Almighty God is superior to any angel))

Jesus was never an angel. He created angels.

For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Colossians 1:16

[onewithhim]

One thing is certain. Jesus was not Michael, the archangel. To claim such is blatant false teaching. Jesus, the Word made flesh, created Michael.

John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

If you believe that Michael is not Jesus, you are giving Michael a place equal to that of Jesus. Who else can "stand guard over the sons of your people and arise" around the time that the Great Tribulation breaks out? (See Daniel 12:1,2, NASB) That describes Jesus, doesn't it? Michael is not mentioned in Matthew 24, so where is he? He is supposed to be arising for the people when the GT hits.

You are denying the superiority of Jesus. He is greater than all the other heavenly Persons. If he is not the one who arises for the people, then you are giving Michael more power than Jesus has. You are denying Jesus his rightful place.

[Wootah]

One thing is certain. Jesus was not Michael, the archangel. To claim such is blatant false teaching. Jesus, the Word made flesh, created Michael.

John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

If you believe that Michael is not Jesus, you are giving Michael a place equal to that of Jesus. Who else can "stand guard over the sons of your people and arise" around the time that the Great Tribulation breaks out? (See Daniel 12:1,2, NASB) That describes Jesus, doesn't it? Michael is not mentioned in Matthew 24, so where is he? He is supposed to be arising for the people when the GT hits.

You are denying the superiority of Jesus. He is greater than all the other heavenly Persons. If he is not the one who arises for the people, then you are giving Michael more power than Jesus has. You are denying Jesus his rightful place.

This article makes quite a rebuttal.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don ... art_24.cfm

Basically, Michael does not rebuke Satan and lets YHWH do it but Jesus in Matthew does rebuke Satan. This shows that Jesus is not Michael. It also shows that either Jesus is wrong to rebuke Satan because Jesus is not YHWH or Jesus is YHWH and so can rebuke Satan.

From the article

There is a further problem with the identification of Jesus with Michael. The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

[onewithhim]

One thing is certain. Jesus was not Michael, the archangel. To claim such is blatant false teaching. Jesus, the Word made flesh, created Michael.

John 1:3
Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made.

If you believe that Michael is not Jesus, you are giving Michael a place equal to that of Jesus. Who else can "stand guard over the sons of your people and arise" around the time that the Great Tribulation breaks out? (See Daniel 12:1,2, NASB) That describes Jesus, doesn't it? Michael is not mentioned in Matthew 24, so where is he? He is supposed to be arising for the people when the GT hits.

You are denying the superiority of Jesus. He is greater than all the other heavenly Persons. If he is not the one who arises for the people, then you are giving Michael more power than Jesus has. You are denying Jesus his rightful place.

This article makes quite a rebuttal.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don ... art_24.cfm

Basically, Michael does not rebuke Satan and lets YHWH do it but Jesus in Matthew does rebuke Satan. This shows that Jesus is not Michael. It also shows that either Jesus is wrong to rebuke Satan because Jesus is not YHWH or Jesus is YHWH and so can rebuke Satan.

From the article

There is a further problem with the identification of Jesus with Michael. The Book of Jude says:

But when the archangel Michael contended with the Devil and disputed about the body of Moses, he did not dare to bring a condemnation of slander against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 9).

Michael is obviously not the Lord. He could not rebuke the Devil on his own, but rather called upon the Lord to rebuke him. Jesus has no such problem with the Devil - He personally rebuked him, since He is the Lord.

Then Jesus said to him, "Away with you, Satan! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.' " Then the Devil left Him, and behold, angels came and began to minister to Him (Matthew 4:10,11).

It is no such great rebuttal. It is an opinion of someone. We don't know why Jesus would not dare to rebuke Satan over Moses' body. There could have been reasons that are not written. It is certainly not enough to prove that Jesus is not Michael.

As I said, to say that Michael is the great prince that stands up for his people when the Great Tribulation begins is taking away the importance of Jesus in that whole scenario. You are giving a non-Jesus Michael the position and authority that only Jesus deserves. Someone is equal to Jesus in your opinion. I'll side with Jesus all day.

"At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people---everyone whose name is found written in the book---will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever." (Daniel 12:1-3, NIV)

This describes the very time that Jesus will come back to relieve his people of wickedness, what we call "the last days." The language of Daniel 12 closely parallels the language of Matthew 24, where Jesus himself says he is involved. (See verse 30,31.) The time of distress that Michael is involved with parallels the great tribulation that Jesus is involved with---"for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world's beginning until now." (Matt.24:21) Who will raise the dead after the Great Tribulation that Daniel speaks of concerning Michael? Jesus said that HE would raise the dead. (John 5:28)

So where is Michael in the events of Matthew chapter 24? Why is he not mentioned if he is not Jesus?

[Eddie Ramos]

Jesus wasn't an angel when in earth ; he was a human.

(Since as a human being he was indeed lower than the angels, Jesus the man could not have been 100% man AND 100% God (since Almighty God is superior to any angel))

Jesus was never an angel. He created angels.

For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Colossians 1:16

But wasn't Jesus also human even though he created humans? Therefore, just because Christ created something doesn't seem like credible grounds for dismissing that he could also identify with that which he created. It also ignores what the Bible teaches on this matter. If you look at my previous post and ask yourself this question, does the Bible use the Hebrew word for "angel" to describe Jesus? If your answer is yes (and it has to be yes) then the next question is to ask why God does this. I hope you find this helpful.