What is the name above all names?

[Wootah]

Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father

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What is the name above all names?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #154]

Christ is not God, he is God's SON. He was given the power to judge people, by God. Everything Jesus was and did and said was given to him by his Father.

It is the LORD YHWY who judges between the sheep and the goats (Ezekiel 34) and will first "destroy" the "fat" shepherds, and it is then that he sets up David as his prince and only shepherd, at which time the land given to Jacob will become a fruitful land, and no longer a "prey to nations". At the moment, the "son of man" sits at the right hand of the LORD YHWY, waiting for the LORD to make a "footstool" out of thy enemies (Psalms 110:1). It is the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) who will rule the "nations"/Gentiles with a "rod of iron" after they have been smitten with a two-edge sword (the "Word of God".

YHWH has given Jesus the privilege of judging between the sheep and the goats. It is only when Jesus hands back the kingdom to YHWH, his Father, that YHWH will judge anyone.

"When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne, and all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left." (Matthew25:31-33)

So it is the Son that judges the sheep and the goats, not YHWH.

"Next, the end, when he [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet....For God 'subjected all things under his feet,' but when he says that "all things have been subjected," it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God [YHWH] may be all things to everyone." (I Corinthians 15:24-28)

[2ndpillar2]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #154]

Christ is not God, he is God's SON. He was given the power to judge people, by God. Everything Jesus was and did and said was given to him by his Father.

It is the LORD YHWY who judges between the sheep and the goats (Ezekiel 34) and will first "destroy" the "fat" shepherds, and it is then that he sets up David as his prince and only shepherd, at which time the land given to Jacob will become a fruitful land, and no longer a "prey to nations". At the moment, the "son of man" sits at the right hand of the LORD YHWY, waiting for the LORD to make a "footstool" out of thy enemies (Psalms 110:1). It is the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) who will rule the "nations"/Gentiles with a "rod of iron" after they have been smitten with a two-edge sword (the "Word of God".

YHWH has given Jesus the privilege of judging between the sheep and the goats. It is only when Jesus hands back the kingdom to YHWH, his Father, that YHWH will judge anyone.

"When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne, and all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left." (Matthew25:31-33)

So it is the Son that judges the sheep and the goats, not YHWH.

"Next, the end, when he [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet....For God 'subjected all things under his feet,' but when he says that "all things have been subjected," it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God [YHWH] may be all things to everyone." (I Corinthians 15:24-28)

Apparently, you haven't read the Scripture, the LAW and the prophets (Mt 5), that Yeshua came to fulfill. Ezekiel 34 has the LORD, YHWY, judging the sheep and the goats, after first destroying the "fat" and "strong" shepherds, and afterward, turning over the sheep to the one shepherd, David, and making David the prince. At that time, as ruler, David can separate the surviving sheep which ever he may. The same is with respect to Ezekiel 37, whereas the LORD reunifies Ephraim/Israel, and Judah, and puts them on the land of Jacob, with David as their king. The "King" will rule the survivors of the "nations" who will "worship" the king every year on the feast of Passover (Zech 14:16) in Jerusalem. Those "survivors" of the "nations"/Gentiles, from the wrath of the judgment (Joel 2:31-3:1-2) "day of the LORD" (Haro-Magedon) will be ruled with an "iron rod" (Rev 19:15). At that time, David will rule and separate the sheep whichever way he pleases, for he will be the Lord of the earth. At the end of his reign, the end of the millennium, "Satan" will be released (Rev 20:7), and all will be judged again from the book of life. The Lord of the Earth, at this present time, "has nothing in me", and is the deceiver, the "dragon"/"Satan". The ruler of the world is prince of Rome, Sol Invictus, whose day is Sunday, who gives his authority to the 7 headed beasts (Rev 13:4 & 17).

John 14:30 “Hereafter I will not talk much with you, for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me

[onewithhim]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #154]

Christ is not God, he is God's SON. He was given the power to judge people, by God. Everything Jesus was and did and said was given to him by his Father.

It is the LORD YHWY who judges between the sheep and the goats (Ezekiel 34) and will first "destroy" the "fat" shepherds, and it is then that he sets up David as his prince and only shepherd, at which time the land given to Jacob will become a fruitful land, and no longer a "prey to nations". At the moment, the "son of man" sits at the right hand of the LORD YHWY, waiting for the LORD to make a "footstool" out of thy enemies (Psalms 110:1). It is the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) who will rule the "nations"/Gentiles with a "rod of iron" after they have been smitten with a two-edge sword (the "Word of God".

YHWH has given Jesus the privilege of judging between the sheep and the goats. It is only when Jesus hands back the kingdom to YHWH, his Father, that YHWH will judge anyone.

"When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne, and all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left." (Matthew25:31-33)

So it is the Son that judges the sheep and the goats, not YHWH.

"Next, the end, when he [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet....For God 'subjected all things under his feet,' but when he says that "all things have been subjected," it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God [YHWH] may be all things to everyone." (I Corinthians 15:24-28)

Apparently, you haven't read the Scripture,

Apparently you didn't read the scriptures I just quoted. How can people have a discussion if they don't read the other's posts? Anyway, Ezekiel 34 speaks of YHWH taking care of the wicked shepherds, and He has given His Son the privilege of judging the sheep (and the goats). Jesus is the means by which YHWH will judge the sheep and the goats. Jesus does everything as the Father would, and he says everything the Father tells him to say. (John 5:19; John 12:49,50)

[2ndpillar2]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #154]

Christ is not God, he is God's SON. He was given the power to judge people, by God. Everything Jesus was and did and said was given to him by his Father.

It is the LORD YHWY who judges between the sheep and the goats (Ezekiel 34) and will first "destroy" the "fat" shepherds, and it is then that he sets up David as his prince and only shepherd, at which time the land given to Jacob will become a fruitful land, and no longer a "prey to nations". At the moment, the "son of man" sits at the right hand of the LORD YHWY, waiting for the LORD to make a "footstool" out of thy enemies (Psalms 110:1). It is the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) who will rule the "nations"/Gentiles with a "rod of iron" after they have been smitten with a two-edge sword (the "Word of God".

YHWH has given Jesus the privilege of judging between the sheep and the goats. It is only when Jesus hands back the kingdom to YHWH, his Father, that YHWH will judge anyone.

"When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne, and all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left." (Matthew25:31-33)

So it is the Son that judges the sheep and the goats, not YHWH.

"Next, the end, when he [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet....For God 'subjected all things under his feet,' but when he says that "all things have been subjected," it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God [YHWH] may be all things to everyone." (I Corinthians 15:24-28)

Apparently, you haven't read the Scripture,

Apparently you didn't read the scriptures I just quoted. How can people have a discussion if they don't read the other's posts?

You apparently read into Mt 25 whatever you want to see. YHWY judges the sheep, as in He "destroys" the "fat" "shepherds" (Ez 34). After that YHWY turns the sheep over to David (EZ 34 & 37). And no one is thrown into "eternal punishment" (Mt 25:46)/lake of fire, until after the millennium (Rev 20:15). The Messiah is put in charge at the beginning of the millennium. Your indoctrination was apparently well thought out, as you have a catch 22, whereas if you don't believe the false gospel of grace, you are doomed to fire, which is exactly the opposite message given by Yeshua (Mt 13:24-50).

[Revelations won]

Dear Onewithhim,

Let's face the facts. You cn go on with all your "private interpretations" of the scriptures, but lets face reality. You by your admissions make it very clear that You deny that Jesus the Christ is Emanuel or God with us.

You deny the revelations and witness of the Holy Ghost. You can only offer your own "private interpretations" of Christ's divine status. Also you can only use the "private interpretations of your alleged scholars as the basis for your beliefs.

By your position you clearly admit that YOU DO NOT have the testimony of Jesus.

If I further understand your position correctly it appears that you view Jesus the Christ (the Messiah ) as a mere mortal who has been given all power in heaven and earth, has been given all judgement, has an everlasting kingdom, has all wisdom, is King of kings and Lord of Lords, has the power to sit in the throne of God the Father, has created the worlds and heaven, has received all that the other hath, Is the first born son of God with a spirit body, is also the only begotten son of God in the flesh, has the ability to allow the death of his body and also the power of the resurrection. has also the power to resurrect all mankind, has the power to also exalt others to receive and become partakers of the divine nature, has the mighty power to permit truly faithful followers to become joint heirs with him in receiving also all that the Other hath.

And yet yet you blatantly deny the the Divine nature and Godhood of Jesus Christ as the literal Son of God and his position as God the Son.

Ki9nd rdegards,
RW

[onewithhim]

Dear Onewithhim,

Let's face the facts. You cn go on with all your "private interpretations" of the scriptures, but lets face reality. You by your admissions make it very clear that You deny that Jesus the Christ is Emanuel or God with us.

You deny the revelations and witness of the Holy Ghost. You can only offer your own "private interpretations" of Christ's divine status. Also you can only use the "private interpretations of your alleged scholars as the basis for your beliefs.

By your position you clearly admit that YOU DO NOT have the testimony of Jesus.

If I further understand your position correctly it appears that you view Jesus the Christ (the Messiah ) as a mere mortal who has been given all power in heaven and earth, has been given all judgement, has an everlasting kingdom, has all wisdom, is King of kings and Lord of Lords, has the power to sit in the throne of God the Father, has created the worlds and heaven, has received all that the other hath, Is the first born son of God with a spirit body, is also the only begotten son of God in the flesh, has the ability to allow the death of his body and also the power of the resurrection. has also the power to resurrect all mankind, has the power to also exalt others to receive and become partakers of the divine nature, has the mighty power to permit truly faithful followers to become joint heirs with him in receiving also all that the Other hath.

And yet yet you blatantly deny the the Divine nature and Godhood of Jesus Christ as the literal Son of God and his position as God the Son.

Ki9nd rdegards,
RW

And you have yet to show me where in the Bible Jesus is said to be "God the Son." You ignore words out of his own mouth when he said, "I am God's Son." (John 10:36) A person can't be his father and the son at the same time. Let us reason together! (Isaiah 1:18, KJV) Jesus is truly the literal Son of God, and there is no position granted him to be "God the Son." Nowhere in the Bible. There are many many passages that show that he is subordinate to the Father, if you would just give them some attention. Yet he was given the position to be the King over the earth, with a real government that will be the source of all good things coming upon the earth. The Father---"the only true God"---(John 17:3) has given Jesus that position, and Jesus will give back the kingdom to his "God and Father" after the thousand-year reign of Christ and his co-rulers.

"Next, the end, when he [Jesus] hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet (Psalm 110:1)....For God 'subjected all things under his feet.' But when he says that 'all things have been subjected,' it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone." (I Corinthians 15:24-28)

So Jehovah is "all things," even to Jesus Christ.

[Wootah]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #166]

* God the Son

This must be a JW talking point. Address an issue that is irrelevant. It's like faith 'alone' in tue finished work of Jesus. Bible never puts those words together either but the whole story is about man breaking (man failing to fix it) and God fixing it.

Actually your position is entirely blasphemous because you want a non God creature to fix the problem and so for us to be justified outside of God.

* Everything subjected to Him

No one is suggesting that God subjects himself to himself but now you have to eisegesis the text and say God is not subject to him and nor is he subject to to himself. But the text says everything.

For example if I have a pile of rocks and say every rock is under the top rock. Do you imagine another rock above that as well?

Its eisegesis by you to avoid the obvious meaning of the text.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #166]

* God the Son

This must be a JW talking point. Address an issue that is irrelevant. It's like faith 'alone' in tue finished work of Jesus. Bible never puts those words together either but the whole story is about man breaking (man failing to fix it) and God fixing it.

Actually your position is entirely blasphemous because you want a non God creature to fix the problem and so for us to be justified outside of God.

* Everything subjected to Him

No one is suggesting that God subjects himself to himself but now you have to eisegesis the text and say God is not subject to him and nor is he subject to to himself. But the text says everything.

For example if I have a pile of rocks and say every rock is under the top rock. Do you imagine another rock above that as well?

Its eisegesis by you to avoid the obvious meaning of the text.

Blasphemous that a "non-God creature" should fix our problems?? Tell me---where in the Bible does it say that God must die for our sins? Aren't there ample statements that it is a perfect MAN that must do it? (Romans 5:19; I Corinthians 15:45)* And why do you think that Almighty God could come to Earth when He is so absolutely magnificent that "the heavens cannot contain Him"? (I Kings 8:27)

*Also: "For since death is through a man, resurrection from the dead is also through a man. For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive." (I Corinthians 15:21,22)

"But this man offered one sacrifice for sins perpetually and sat down at the right hand of God." (Hebrews 10:12)

[Revelations won]

Greeting to all JW’s,

“What is the name above all names?

Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

So if our Lord and Savior and Redeemer is just a mere mortal as you claim, then why should all mankind on bended knee bow to him?

What is the name above all names?”

It appears that Wootah is on target in his response to Tam and Onewithhim.

Neither will their responses ever be correct because their answers are simply and accurately based on their own “private interpretations”. Further they do not have the “testimony of Jesus” nor can they ever receive that testimony because of their unbelief and privately interpretations of the scriptures.

My goodness it is amazing that some will never wake up and receive sound doctrine.

The scriptures make it abundantly clear that no one can receive either salvation or exaltation except by Jesus Christ. (Jehovah who is come in the flesh).

Come now. Can you show undeniable evidence of the following: Let’s see your evidence that establishes your doctrine that Jesus Christ is just another mere mortal? How is it that a mere mortal can any power to atone for the sins of the whole world?

Since these parties make their “private interpretation that Jesus is not God the Son”, then they have a man made doctrine that one mere mortal can atone for the sins of another, in fact for all mankind.

Though he were a son, yet learned he obedience and being made perfect he become the author of eternal salvation for all.

Jesus Christ has been given judgement over all mortals.

Also we observe in 1 Peter 3:22 “Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.”

Please show me the scriptural doctrine that mere mortals are to receive the power and judgement over other mortals and even angels?


According to the Bible he has received ALL that the the Father hath.

I would ask this sobering question: How can one receive all that the father hath without being literally God the Son? Also since God is no respecter of persons, then it is obvious that all mankind can as heirs and joint heirs with Christ also receive all power and judgement in heaven and earth.

He is Lord of lords and King of kings.

He has ALL power.

He has and everlasting kingdom.

He has ALL power in heaven and earth.

He is Alpha and Omega.

He is the chosen redeemer of all mankind.

Has atoned for the sins of all mankind on condition of repentance.

He has provided the wondrous power of the resurrection to all.

He it is who gave the laws of heaven to Moses.

In his coming to birth like the rest of us his, his first coming mission was as Exemplar and illustrator of the law.

In his second coming in power and glory he will come as judge of all and administer the destruction of the wicked to cleanse the earth from all unrighteousness.

Yes indeed his name will be above all other names! Worthy is the Lamb of God!

By his commandments, Atonement and resurrection he brought further glory to God (Eloheim ) his actual father. The Father likewise also glorified his son Jesus the Christ, the Messiah or holy one of Israel!

Be it so noted that he (Christ) has also given us commandments. Who but a God has authority to give commandments?


Jesus Christ is the creator of this world. How can one create a world without having the divine power of God?

When he has done all this it is amazing to me that there are those who deny his divinity, Well hath Enoch and Jude testified and prophesied:



Jude 1:

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
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To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
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These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
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But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
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How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
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These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
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But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
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Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
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And of some have compassion, making a difference:
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And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
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To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Kind regards,
RW

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Revelations won in post #169]
JWs do not say that Christ was a "mere mortal." Don't put words in our mouths. Jesus was the Son of God who came down from heaven to carry out his assignment from the Father to give a witness about the coming Kingdom and to die for our sins. He was not a "mere mortal." The Scriptures show him to be the only one with immortality, living in "unapproachable light." (I Timothy 6:16) This is where he is now, back in heaven with his Father and the angels. He is waiting until the time that God tells him to come and rid the earth of evil and to reign over the earth for a thousand years. Does that sound like we consider him a "mere mortal"?

Jude 25 should read this way: "To the only God our Savior, be glory, majesty, might and authority for all past eternity and now into all eternity. Amen." It speaks of God our Savior who is the Father, whom Jesus said was "the only true God" (John 17:3), and it doesn't speak of Jesus as God. Jesus is the means by which God saves. YHWH the Father deserves all the glory and majesty. Jesus said that he did not want glory, but all glory goes to God the Father. "I am not seeking glory for myself." (Jesus said at John 8:50) All glory goes to God, the Father. "Every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:11)

Where is your appreciation for that fact?