What is the name above all names?

[Wootah]

Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father

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What is the name above all names?

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #148]

So how is one saved?

As quoted from Yeshua, one is not saved, unless they "endure to the end" (Mt 24:13), in which the "end", is not until the "end of the age" (Mt 13:30) which is the "day of the LORD" (Har-Magedon)(great tribulation), which remains in abeyance. No one has been "saved", as is indicated in Joel 2:31-32, at this point in time. With regard to Joel 2 & 3, an indication of the end, is when the nations/Gentiles are sold into slavery (Joel 3:8). All that has happened in the meantime, is the "false prophets" have preached a wide rode to being "saved" yet have led the "many" to "destruction" (Mt 7:12-15). In the case of the Muslims, in which a mythical prophet (false prophet) has told them that their sins will be forgiven, and they would be saved on judgment day, if they kiss the black stone, which was the tradition of the previous pagans who ran the Kaaba in Petra. The stone the "Christians" kiss, is the ring of the pope, who claims to be Christ on earth, who through his priest can forgive their sins, or in the case of Protestants, believe that Jesus is Christ (savior), is the son of God, despite the fact that "Jesus" didn't save the Jews from Rome, or save the Protestants, who were previous to the time of Luther, Catholic, from their sins, and they now follow their false prophet Paul, and think their grace increases with their sinning. This is not fiction; this is how things have play out. To understand the playbook, go to Matthew 13.

You are confusing a denomination with CHRISTIANITY. CHRISTIANITY is made up of various denominations; however, that said --- not all doctrines accepted by some denominations are biblical. One must read Matthew 24:13 in context ---- and that context is as follows: https://www.gotquestions.org/endures-to ... saved.html

[tam]

Peace to you,

Dear Tam and Onewithhim,


Wootah stated:
“What is the name above all names?

Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?”

It is said directly in the verses you quoted. (not that "Jesus" is correctly written, but it is referring to the name of Christ. Verse 10 and 11 are quite specific about this.)

It appears that Wootah is on target in his response to Tam and Onewithhim.

Wootah claims the name is something other than what the verses state. Is that not interpretation?

Neither will their responses ever be correct because their answers are simply and accurately based on their own “private interpretations”.

Except that the verse itself states the name in verse 10 and 11. I have not interpreted anything - private or otherwise. It is the simple and straightforward statement from the text itself.

Further they do not have the “testimony of Jesus” nor can they ever receive that testimony because of their unbelief and privately interpretations of the scriptures.

This is a big accusation to make Revelations won. What have I even said that is false? If nothing, then on what basis do you make this accusation? Is it simply because I cannot agree with your interpretation?

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My faith is in Christ Jaheshua, Himself.

You call this unbelief - seemingly simply because I cannot accept something you have accepted - but you are wrong. My faith is a gift given to me by my Father in heaven.

My goodness it is amazing that some will never wake up and receive sound doctrine.

Since when are doctrines and traditions of men 'sound' simply because some men claim them to be?

Should we not be testing and holding all things up against the Light, the Truth? That means holding all things up to Christ. He is the Light. He is the Truth.

If one wants to know the TRUTH, then one must turn and listen to Christ.

Not to men. Not to people on the internet. Not to religion. Not to oneself.

To Christ.

The scriptures make it abundantly clear that no one can receive either salvation or exaltation except by Jesus Christ.

From Jaheshua, yes, of course.

(Jehovah who is come in the flesh).

Where does Christ make this claim?

Since these parties make their privet interpretation that Jesus is not God the Son,

Please show me where Christ claimed to be "God the Son"?

I know my Lord said that He is the Son of God.

If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— 36then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God?

For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.


Why isn't His word enough?


God also spoke of Christ as His Son:

"You are My beloved Son; in You I am well pleased."

“This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Listen to Him!”

then they have a man made doctrine that one mere moral can atone for the sins of another, in fact for all mankind.

Christ is not a 'mere mortal'. He is the living Son of God. The Holy One of God. He is the LIFE. The firstborn over all creation.

He is neither mere nor mortal.



Peace still to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[2ndpillar2]

[Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #148]

So how is one saved?

As quoted from Yeshua, one is not saved, unless they "endure to the end" (Mt 24:13), in which the "end", is not until the "end of the age" (Mt 13:30) which is the "day of the LORD" (Har-Magedon)(great tribulation), which remains in abeyance. No one has been "saved", as is indicated in Joel 2:31-32, at this point in time. With regard to Joel 2 & 3, an indication of the end, is when the nations/Gentiles are sold into slavery (Joel 3:8). All that has happened in the meantime, is the "false prophets" have preached a wide rode to being "saved" yet have led the "many" to "destruction" (Mt 7:12-15). In the case of the Muslims, in which a mythical prophet (false prophet) has told them that their sins will be forgiven, and they would be saved on judgment day, if they kiss the black stone, which was the tradition of the previous pagans who ran the Kaaba in Petra. The stone the "Christians" kiss, is the ring of the pope, who claims to be Christ on earth, who through his priest can forgive their sins, or in the case of Protestants, believe that Jesus is Christ (savior), is the son of God, despite the fact that "Jesus" didn't save the Jews from Rome, or save the Protestants, who were previous to the time of Luther, Catholic, from their sins, and they now follow their false prophet Paul, and think their grace increases with their sinning. This is not fiction; this is how things have play out. To understand the playbook, go to Matthew 13.

You are confusing a denomination with CHRISTIANITY. CHRISTIANITY is made up of various denominations; however, that said --- not all doctrines accepted by some denominations are biblical. One must read Matthew 24:13 in context ---- and that context is as follows: https://www.gotquestions.org/endures-to ... saved.html

The foundation of "Christianity" starts with the false prophet Paul, along with the dogma of the Trinity, which was codified by the Roman Emperor Constantine during his convened Council of Nicaea in the year 325. Although there are around 38,000 different sects, they in general, all aligned with the dogma set up by the Roman church, which was made official in the year 380 by the Roman emperor, Theodosius. You might want to explain what the "gospel of kingdom" (Mt 24:14) is, before you say it has been preached on the whole earth, in line with the false prophet Paul, who says the gospel, his false gospel of grace, has been preached to the whole world. One is the "message" of the "son of man", and one is the "tare seed" spread by the "enemy"/"devil" (Matthew 13). The "tares" (Paul's minions) are to remain in force until the "end of the age" (Matthew 13:30), at which time they will be "gathered" and thrown into the "furnace of fire" (Har-Magedon).

[LittleNipper]

[Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #148]

So how is one saved?

As quoted from Yeshua, one is not saved, unless they "endure to the end" (Mt 24:13), in which the "end", is not until the "end of the age" (Mt 13:30) which is the "day of the LORD" (Har-Magedon)(great tribulation), which remains in abeyance. No one has been "saved", as is indicated in Joel 2:31-32, at this point in time. With regard to Joel 2 & 3, an indication of the end, is when the nations/Gentiles are sold into slavery (Joel 3:8). All that has happened in the meantime, is the "false prophets" have preached a wide rode to being "saved" yet have led the "many" to "destruction" (Mt 7:12-15). In the case of the Muslims, in which a mythical prophet (false prophet) has told them that their sins will be forgiven, and they would be saved on judgment day, if they kiss the black stone, which was the tradition of the previous pagans who ran the Kaaba in Petra. The stone the "Christians" kiss, is the ring of the pope, who claims to be Christ on earth, who through his priest can forgive their sins, or in the case of Protestants, believe that Jesus is Christ (savior), is the son of God, despite the fact that "Jesus" didn't save the Jews from Rome, or save the Protestants, who were previous to the time of Luther, Catholic, from their sins, and they now follow their false prophet Paul, and think their grace increases with their sinning. This is not fiction; this is how things have play out. To understand the playbook, go to Matthew 13.

You are confusing a denomination with CHRISTIANITY. CHRISTIANITY is made up of various denominations; however, that said --- not all doctrines accepted by some denominations are biblical. One must read Matthew 24:13 in context ---- and that context is as follows: https://www.gotquestions.org/endures-to ... saved.html

The foundation of "Christianity" starts with the false prophet Paul, along with the dogma of the Trinity, which was codified by the Roman Emperor Constantine during his convened Council of Nicaea in the year 325. Although there are around 38,000 different sects, they in general, all aligned with the dogma set up by the Roman church, which was made official in the year 380 by the Roman emperor, Theodosius. You might want to explain what the "gospel of kingdom" (Mt 24:14) is, before you say it has been preached on the whole earth, in line with the false prophet Paul, who says the gospel, his false gospel of grace, has been preached to the whole world. One is the "message" of the "son of man", and one is the "tare seed" spread by the "enemy"/"devil" (Matthew 13). The "tares" (Paul's minions) are to remain in force until the "end of the age" (Matthew 13:30), at which time they will be "gathered" and thrown into the "furnace of fire" (Har-Magedon).

Paul is not a false prophet. What did Paul prophecy that is false? Christ is God. Only GOD can forgive sin. Only CHRIST gave HIS life to bring salvation

[Mae von H]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #138]

Not a single writer of the Bible wrote in English and that word cannot occur in Hebrew. But we’re likely done here. You have made up your mind.

[2ndpillar2]

[Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #148]

So how is one saved?

As quoted from Yeshua, one is not saved, unless they "endure to the end" (Mt 24:13), in which the "end", is not until the "end of the age" (Mt 13:30) which is the "day of the LORD" (Har-Magedon)(great tribulation), which remains in abeyance. No one has been "saved", as is indicated in Joel 2:31-32, at this point in time. With regard to Joel 2 & 3, an indication of the end, is when the nations/Gentiles are sold into slavery (Joel 3:8). All that has happened in the meantime, is the "false prophets" have preached a wide rode to being "saved" yet have led the "many" to "destruction" (Mt 7:12-15). In the case of the Muslims, in which a mythical prophet (false prophet) has told them that their sins will be forgiven, and they would be saved on judgment day, if they kiss the black stone, which was the tradition of the previous pagans who ran the Kaaba in Petra. The stone the "Christians" kiss, is the ring of the pope, who claims to be Christ on earth, who through his priest can forgive their sins, or in the case of Protestants, believe that Jesus is Christ (savior), is the son of God, despite the fact that "Jesus" didn't save the Jews from Rome, or save the Protestants, who were previous to the time of Luther, Catholic, from their sins, and they now follow their false prophet Paul, and think their grace increases with their sinning. This is not fiction; this is how things have play out. To understand the playbook, go to Matthew 13.

You are confusing a denomination with CHRISTIANITY. CHRISTIANITY is made up of various denominations; however, that said --- not all doctrines accepted by some denominations are biblical. One must read Matthew 24:13 in context ---- and that context is as follows: https://www.gotquestions.org/endures-to ... saved.html

The foundation of "Christianity" starts with the false prophet Paul, along with the dogma of the Trinity, which was codified by the Roman Emperor Constantine during his convened Council of Nicaea in the year 325. Although there are around 38,000 different sects, they in general, all aligned with the dogma set up by the Roman church, which was made official in the year 380 by the Roman emperor, Theodosius. You might want to explain what the "gospel of kingdom" (Mt 24:14) is, before you say it has been preached on the whole earth, in line with the false prophet Paul, who says the gospel, his false gospel of grace, has been preached to the whole world. One is the "message" of the "son of man", and one is the "tare seed" spread by the "enemy"/"devil" (Matthew 13). The "tares" (Paul's minions) are to remain in force until the "end of the age" (Matthew 13:30), at which time they will be "gathered" and thrown into the "furnace of fire" (Har-Magedon).

Paul is not a false prophet. What did Paul prophecy that is false? Christ is God. Only GOD can forgive sin. Only CHRIST gave HIS life to bring salvation

Paul is quoted as saying "we shall not all sleep/die", which for his immediate listeners and himself, is a false prophecy, as they are all dead. And with regard to Scripture, such as Jeremiah 31:30, it is a lie, in as much as "everybody shall die for their own iniquities". As for the message of Yeshua, he said that if anyone says that "He is in the wilderness" which Paul said, "do not believe them" (Mt 24:26). As for Yeshua, meaning YHWY saves, it is "YHWY", the LORD, who saves. As Yeshua does the will of God/YHWY, he is a son of God, just as anyone else. As for "salvation", you will die (Jeremiah 31:30), but being "saved" goes to Joel 2:31-32, and it states that those in Jerusalem and on Mt Zion can escape if they call the name of the LORD. As for the Gentiles/"nations", they will be gathered to the valley of judgment (Joel 3:2), and wind up being sold as slaves to "the sons of Judah" (Joel 3:8). The "strangers"/Gentiles will be given the opportunity to become "servants"/slaves to Jacob/Israel (Isaiah 14:1-2). I think that the "many" (Mt 7:12-15) will be led down the path to "destruction", and that those who "dwell on the earth", will be "deceived" (Rev 16), as they are now deceived. Your "Christ is God" narrative comes from the Council of Nicaea, which was convened by the Roman emperor Constantine, in the year 325 A.D.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #154]

Christ is not God, he is God's SON. He was given the power to judge people, by God. Everything Jesus was and did and said was given to him by his Father.

[Revelations won]

Dear 2nd pillar2,

In your post #146 you said: "The Scriptural definition is that his prophecy, "we shall not all sleep"/die did not come true."

Can you provide irrefutable scriptural or other evidence in support of your claim? If so let's see it.

Is there any scriptural or other evidence that supports an opposing view?


Kind regards,
RW

[2ndpillar2]

Dear 2nd pillar2,

In your post #146 you said: "The Scriptural definition is that his prophecy, "we shall not all sleep"/die did not come true."

Can you provide irrefutable scriptural or other evidence in support of your claim? If so let's see it.

Is there any scriptural or other evidence that supports an opposing view?


Kind regards,
RW

Well, there is an actual tomb in Rome which supposedly has the body of Paul. The Scriptural evidence is that the limit on the life of man is 120 years (Genesis 6:3), and Paul's statement of "we shall not all sleep/die", happened well over 120 years ago. Not to say Paul is in his supposed tomb, but according to Revelation 20:10, the "false prophet" is already in the "lake of fire" at the time of the last judgment (Rev 20:10), and that it is the "demon spirit" of the "false prophet" which will bringing the kings against Jerusalem in the last day (Rev 16:13-15). Therefore, the "false prophet", is already dead. If you look on the current news, the Muslim neighbors of Jerusalem and nations are coming against Jerusalem (Zechariah 14), which is to say that the "demon spirit" of the "devil", the "beast", and the "false prophet" are on the move (Revelation 16:13-16), which is a precursor to "Har-Magedon".

Matthew 7:15 - Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

Matthew 24:24 - For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

King James Bible Jeremiah 14:14
Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

[2ndpillar2]

[Replying to LittleNipper in post #154]

Christ is not God, he is God's SON. He was given the power to judge people, by God. Everything Jesus was and did and said was given to him by his Father.

It is the LORD YHWY who judges between the sheep and the goats (Ezekiel 34) and will first "destroy" the "fat" shepherds, and it is then that he sets up David as his prince and only shepherd, at which time the land given to Jacob will become a fruitful land, and no longer a "prey to nations". At the moment, the "son of man" sits at the right hand of the LORD YHWY, waiting for the LORD to make a "footstool" out of thy enemies (Psalms 110:1). It is the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13-15) who will rule the "nations"/Gentiles with a "rod of iron" after they have been smitten with a two-edge sword (the "Word of God".