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What is the name above all names?

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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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“The princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6, 7)

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Paul had no clue.

The name of the son of man is a mystery.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:40 pm
“The princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6, 7)
Is that name above the name of YHWH?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?
The name above all names is “The Lord Jesus Christ.”

The Lord Jesus Christ is YHWH.

Joel 2:32
“And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved;”

Romans 10:13
13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Paul is referring to Jesus as "Lord" in Rom 10:13. This is beyond doubt; and the fact that he quotes an OT text referring to YHWH and applies it to Jesus shows clearly what he thinks of the status of Jesus.

This is not the first time where OT passages that refer to YHWH in the OT are applied to Jesus in the NT:

Heb 1:6 quotes Deut 32:43
Heb 1:8, 9 quotes Ps 45:6, 7
Heb 1:10-12 quotes Ps 102:25-27 (LXX)
Phil 2:10, 11 quotes Isa 45:23
Matt 3:3 (cf V11) quotes Isa 40:3

In the OT, YHWH is referred to as Savior, first and last, Lord of Lords. These same names are applied to Jesus in the NT.
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PHILIPIANS 2:9

Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father


WAS JESUS NEW NAME EQUAL TO THAT OF JEHOVAH?

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Is that name above the name of YHWH?
No. Obviously Paul was not saying this new name would be higher than literally every name that exists, since that would mean the new name would be higher than the new name which is nonsense. So implicit in what Paul wrote is that there is at least one exception over which the given name is NOT higher. Further ....
Jehovah’s (YHWH) status could ever be changed as He has always been supreme. If Jesus had the name previous to his time on earth it would not be "new", so the promotion he was to enjoy was an elevation to something he had never experienced before and something he (Jesus) could only experience because it was given to him by the Father. All this proves that Jesus has never been the same as, or equal to, Jehovah.

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:21 pm
Wootah wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 5:03 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:40 pm
“The princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” (Isaiah 9:6, 7)
Is that name above the name of YHWH?
No. Obviously Paul was not saying this new name would be higher than literally every name that exists, since that would mean the new name would be higher than the new name which is nonsense. So implicit in what Paul wrote is that there is at least one exception over which the given name is NOT higher. Further ....
Jehovah’s (YHWH) status could ever be changed as He has always been supreme. If Jesus had the name previous to his time on earth it would not be "new", so the promotion he was to enjoy was an elevation to something he had never experienced before and something he (Jesus) could only experience because it was given to him by the Father. All this proves that Jesus has never been the same as, or equal to, Jehovah.

JW
The words are written down in a page of a book called the Bible and you are refusing to accept their written down meaning.

If someone is given the name above all names then either that is true or false. Is Paul's words true that Jesus has the name above all names or are Paul's words false that the name given to Jesus is not above all names?

Why isn't what you are doing eisigesis caused by cognitive dissonance?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Wootah wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:29 pm
The words are written down in a page of a book called the Bible and you are refusing to accept their written down meaning.

If someone is given the name above all names then either that is true or false. Is Paul's words true that Jesus has the name above all names or are Paul's words false that the name given to Jesus is not above all names?

Why isn't what you are doing eisigesis caused by cognitive dissonance?
Some people deny the words Paul wrote under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Yet, YHWH is the one who gave Jesus the name above ALL names.

Some refuse to acknowledge that The Lord Jesus Christ is YHWH. But one has to ask the following: why would YHWH give Jesus the name above ALL names? He gave Jesus the name because Jesus IS YHWH.

You nailed it Wootah! It’s called cognitive dissonance. Admitting one is wrong is a very difficult thing to do. People hate being wrong.
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MissKate13 wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:56 pm
Wootah wrote: Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:29 pm
The words are written down in a page of a book called the Bible and you are refusing to accept their written down meaning.

If someone is given the name above all names then either that is true or false. Is Paul's words true that Jesus has the name above all names or are Paul's words false that the name given to Jesus is not above all names?

Why isn't what you are doing eisigesis caused by cognitive dissonance?
Some people deny the words Paul wrote under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Yet, YHWH is the one who gave Jesus the name above ALL names.

Some refuse to acknowledge that The Lord Jesus Christ is YHWH. But one has to ask the following: why would YHWH give Jesus the name above ALL names? He gave Jesus the name because Jesus IS YHWH.

You nailed it Wootah! It’s called cognitive dissonance. Admitting one is wrong is a very difficult thing to do. People hate being wrong.
Paul was never under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Only those who do what Jesus commanded know the name!

Christians don’t know.

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[Replying to MissKate13 in post #5]

You are correct. Also, look at Genesis 1 and 2. God is not named in Genesis 1 but he gives His name first, the name above all names, in Genesis 2:5 and Genesis 2 then goes on to give Adam's name and then he names all the animals. Of course, God gives his name first, the name above all names.
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