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What is the name above all names?

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Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?
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Dear Onewithhim,

Wherin do you have any authority to declare how the Bible should read?

Wherein do you have any authority to change the scriptures?

Do you believe that Jesus the Christ is the creator of this earth?

Do you accept that Jesus the Christ really atoned for our sins on condition of repentance?

Do you believe that he is our only redeemer and savior?

I have asked only 5 questions. Can you please give me your clear answer to each question?

Kind regards,
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Revelations won wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:42 am Dear Onewithhim,

Wherin do you have any authority to declare how the Bible should read?

Wherein do you have any authority to change the scriptures?

Do you believe that Jesus the Christ is the creator of this earth?

Do you accept that Jesus the Christ really atoned for our sins on condition of repentance?

Do you believe that he is our only redeemer and savior?

I have asked only 5 questions. Can you please give me your clear answer to each question?

Kind regards,
RW
I have not changed the Scriptures, and you yourself declare how the Bible should read.

Christ is the creator of the earth, done so with power from his Father, the ultimate Source of life.

Jesus did atone for our sins, yes.

Jesus is our redeemer, sent forth from his Father to do the Father's will.

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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Peace to you RW,

[Replying to Revelations won in post #169]

Did you not see or read this post:

viewtopic.php?p=1140030#p1140030


I responded to some of your points there.

I think you asked some new questions though:

Be it so noted that he (Christ) has also given us commandments. Who but a God has authority to give commandments?

The One about whom God said: "This is my Son, whom I love. Listen to Him." The One to whom God gave all authority (in heaven and on earth):

Jaheshua, the Son and Word and Holy One of God. The Chosen One of JAH.

One of the commandments God gave is for us to listen to His Son.

(A similar thing is displayed in the OT when Joseph was put in charge of all Pharaoh's kingdom. Joseph was second only to Pharaoh himself. The people had to obey Joseph; Joseph could command them.)
How can one create a world without having the divine power of God?
On many past occasions and in many different ways, God spoke to our fathers through the prophets. 2But in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, and through whom He made the universe.


God created the world through His Son.

Two persons are mentioned here are they not?

(1) God
(2) His Son



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Re: What is the name above all names?

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Wootah wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am
Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?
It is a secret to them that know it.

The only people who give a lie any creditability are liars.

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Dear JW’s,


As I said in an earlier post:

“Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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What is the name above all names?”

It appears that Wootah is on target in his response to Tam and Onewithhim.

Neither will their responses ever be correct because their answers are simply and accurately based on their own “private interpretations”. Further they do not have the “testimony of Jesus” nor can they ever receive that testimony because of their unbelief and privately interpretations of the scriptures.

My goodness it is amazing that some will never wake up and receive sound doctrine.

The scriptures make it abundantly clear that no one can receive either salvation or exaltation except by Jesus Christ. (Jehovah who is come in the flesh).

Since these parties make their privet interpretation that Jesus is not God the Son, then they have a man made doctrine that one mere moral can atone for the sins of another, in fact for all mankind.

Though he were a son, yet learned he obedience and being made perfect he become the author of eternal salvation for all.

Jesus Christ has been given judgement or all mortals.

He has received ALL that the the Father hath.

He is Lord of lords and King of kings.

He has ALL power.

He has and everlasting kingdom.

He has ALL power in heaven and earth.

He is Alpha and Omega.

He is the chosen redeemer of all mankind.

Has atoned for the sins of all mankind on condition of repentance.

He has provided the wondrous power of the resurrection to all.

He it is who gave the laws of heaven to Moses.

In his coming to birth like the rest of us his mission was Exemplar and illustrator of the law.

In his second coming in power and glory he will come as judge of all and administer the destruction of the wicked to cleanse the earth from all unrighteousness.

Yes indeed his name will be above all other names! Worthy is the Lamb of God!

By his commandments, Atonement and resurrection he brought further glory to God (Eloheim ) his actual father. The Father likewise also glorified his son Jesus the Christ, the Messiah or holy one of Israel!

When he has done all this it is amazing to me that there are those who deny his divinity, Well hath Enoch and Jude testified and prophesied:

Jude 1:

14And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
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To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.
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These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
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But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
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How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
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These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
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But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,
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Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
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And of some have compassion, making a difference:
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And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
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Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
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To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.”

Well hath Isaiah prophesied:

Isaiah 9:
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For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
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Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Now the bottom line is this:
1.You JW’s claim that Jesus is ruling his kingdom on earth from heaven.

I find this pretty amazing since you DENY All latter day prophets or revelation. One has to wonder how you claim Jesus rules his earthly kingdom with absolutely no revelation??? No communication???

2. The scriptures declare that Christ will be HEIR TO ALL THAT THE FATHER HATH , THAT HE WILL THEN SIT IN HIS FATHERS THRONE, WILL BE GIVEN ALL JUDGEMENT, THAT HE WILL BE GIVEN ALL POWER, BOTH IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, THATR HE WILL RULE IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, THAT HIS KINGDOM WILL BE AN EVERLASTING KINGOM, THAT HE WILL RULE IN HEAVEN AND EARTH, THAT AS ISAIAH HATH PROPHESIED “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder and “AND HIS NAME SHALL BE CALLED, Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Now I would ask how can one receive all the power might and glory in both earth and heaven and still remain a mere mortal?

What you are really saying is that we will be judged by our fellow man and not by God..

3, The scriptures also declare that we may become joint heirs with Jesus Christ and also receive all that he has received.

This is a mighty step in man’s eternal destiny which you must either accept or reject.


4. You JW’s have placed yourselves as unauthorized judges over Adam and Eve and condemned them to hell beyond the mighty atonement of Jesus Christ. You deny them the right to repent like other mortals.

I would ask you who gave you the authority to judge other morals and send them to hell?

Can you declare clearly from your JW Bible translation that Adam and Eve are sent to hell with no chance of repentance and that they are beyond the power of redemption by Jesus Christ?

Let us hear you clear answers to all of the above.

Kind regards,
RW
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Revelations won wrote: Sat Feb 24, 2024 10:09 am ...He has ALL power in heaven and earth....
I think it would be good to remember that God is the one who has all the power, also over Jesus, because:

For "He subjected all things under His feet;" but when He says that all things have been subjected, it is plain that it excepts Him who has subjected all things to Him. Psa. 8:6 But when all things are subjected to Him, then the Son Himself also will be subjected to the One who has subjected all things to Him, that God may be all things in all.
1 Cor. 15:27-28

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Dear 1213,

You bring out a good point regarding God the Father.

Though they both may possess all knowledge and power as separate members of the godhead we should also understand that they constitute the absolute epitome of a perfectness of unity.

Yes, Christ will always be subject in perfect harmony and oneness. yes he will always have a perfect love, respect and honor to God his Father.

Best regards,
RW

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Revelations won wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:04 am Dear 1213,

You bring out a good point regarding God the Father.

Though they both may possess all knowledge and power as separate members of the godhead we should also understand that they constitute the absolute epitome of a perfectness of unity.

Yes, Christ will always be subject in perfect harmony and oneness. yes he will always have a perfect love, respect and honor to God his Father.

Best regards,
RW
If Christ is subordinate to the Father, than he is not God. You posted yourself above that "God his Father" was a separate entity and it is the Father that is God, alone. With Jesus' own words we can see that the Father alone is God.

He said to his Father: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3)

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Wootah wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 1:41 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #134]

What is the name of God?
Guess you could not answer my post yourself. Yeshua, the name above all names stands.

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 8:54 pm
Revelations won wrote: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:04 am Dear 1213,

You bring out a good point regarding God the Father.

Though they both may possess all knowledge and power as separate members of the godhead we should also understand that they constitute the absolute epitome of a perfectness of unity.

Yes, Christ will always be subject in perfect harmony and oneness. yes he will always have a perfect love, respect and honor to God his Father.

Best regards,
RW
If Christ is subordinate to the Father, than he is not God. You posted yourself above that "God his Father" was a separate entity and it is the Father that is God, alone. With Jesus' own words we can see that the Father alone is God.

He said to his Father: "This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ." (John 17:3)
What kind of weird “translation” is that? Who “takes in knowledge” pray tell?

Jesus spoke of knowing God, a real relationship which means understanding not some kind of “taking in knowledge.” I mean, how would you feel about a close friend speaking of your relationship as they “taking in knowledge” of you.

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