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THE FUTURE

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Haven't we all, at one time or another, wondered what the future will be like? Experts of men have had a spotty reputation as most of their predictions have proved untrue.

What does the Bible tell us? "The God of heaven will set up a kingdom which shall never be destroyed....It shall break in pieces all these kingdoms and bring them to an end, and it shall stand forever." (Daniel 2:44, Revised Standard Version)

Is this good news? Of course, when we realize what God's Kingdom is. It is a real government that will replace all of the existing governments on the earth and stand forever. Stability and order will be brought to people on the earth. What will life be like under this government?

NO MORE WAR (Psalm 46:9)
NO MORE SICKNESS (Isaiah 33:24)
NO MORE FOOD SHORTAGE (Psalm 72:16)
NO MORE PAIN, SORROW AND DEATH (Revelation 21:4)

These are just some of the promises made in the Bible about God's Kingdom, and there are more. God has promised all these wonderful things for the future. All righteously inclined people can avail themselves of these promises. Does this sound good to you?

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Re: THE FUTURE

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onewithhim wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:41 am If you take for a fact that the earth was created in the beginning, . . .
I do.
onewithhim wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:41 am. . . it started out as formless and void . . .
According to you it started out that way. But that is not what the scriptures state!

Every thing God made was very good. Why would the earth start out as formless and void?

It started out as non-existent!

Simply because the earth is described as without form, void, and dark in Genesis 1:2, does not have to mean that it was created that way!!
onewithhim wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:41 am . . . but quickly took on what is described in the subsequent verses.
No, every thing God made was seen to be "good" immediately after being created!
onewithhim wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:41 am It took 6 periods of time to complete the creation of the earth to where it could be said it was good.
It took six days, where a day is an evening and a morning. And every step of the creation was seen to be good by God immediately upon its creation.

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Re: THE FUTURE

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[Replying to myth-one.com in post #61]

You are overthinking. The first step in creating the earth was that at first it was without form and void. Then God continued to prepare the earth for his crowning achievement, humans.

Also, the "six days" was a period of undetermined time, certainly many billions of years. It is so because at Genesis 2:4 "the day" is not a 24 hour day. So "day" does not mean 24 hours.

"This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah made the earth and heaven." (Gen.2:4)

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #61]

You are overthinking.
Yes, and my hope is that you would give your responses more thought.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 amThe first step in creating the earth was that at first it was without form and void.
Was it just there?

Was it created that way?

Was is created good and then became that way?

Was it created that way in the first day?

Please give a little thought to this. The first step cannot be a description of something that has not yet been created. The first step would be an action towards its creation. Upon completion, the finished product could be evaluated and described. My assumption is that you believe God initially created the earth as it is described in Genesis 1:2.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am Also, the "six days" was a period of undetermined time, certainly many billions of years. It is so because at Genesis 2:4 "the day" is not a 24 hour day. So "day" does not mean 24 hours.
A day is well defined in Genesis chapter one as an evening and a morning, or one revolution of the earth on its axis!

If a day was billions of today's years back then, then the earth was revolving once every few billion years. That would leave one side of the earth probably molten, and the other siide frozen!

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #61]

You are overthinking.
Yes, and my hope is that you would give your responses more thought.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 amThe first step in creating the earth was that at first it was without form and void.
Was it just there?

Was it created that way?

Was is created good and then became that way?

Was it created that way in the first day?

Please give a little thought to this. The first step cannot be a description of something that has not yet been created. The first step would be an action towards its creation. Upon completion, the finished product could be evaluated and described. My assumption is that you believe God initially created the earth as it is described in Genesis 1:2.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am Also, the "six days" was a period of undetermined time, certainly many billions of years. It is so because at Genesis 2:4 "the day" is not a 24 hour day. So "day" does not mean 24 hours.
A day is well defined in Genesis chapter one as an evening and a morning, or one revolution of the earth on its axis!

If a day was billions of today's years back then, then the earth was revolving once every few billion years. That would leave one side of the earth probably molten, and the other siide frozen!
You fail to address Genesis 2:4. That "day" is not 24 hours long. Or maybe you think that the whole action of creation was done in one 24-hour period?

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onewithhim wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 7:39 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #61]

You are overthinking.
Yes, and my hope is that you would give your responses more thought.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 amThe first step in creating the earth was that at first it was without form and void.
Was it just there?

Was it created that way?

Was is created good and then became that way?

Was it created that way in the first day?

Please give a little thought to this. The first step cannot be a description of something that has not yet been created. The first step would be an action towards its creation. Upon completion, the finished product could be evaluated and described. My assumption is that you believe God initially created the earth as it is described in Genesis 1:2.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am Also, the "six days" was a period of undetermined time, certainly many billions of years. It is so because at Genesis 2:4 "the day" is not a 24 hour day. So "day" does not mean 24 hours.
A day is well defined in Genesis chapter one as an evening and a morning, or one revolution of the earth on its axis!

If a day was billions of today's years back then, then the earth was revolving once every few billion years. That would leave one side of the earth probably molten, and the other siide frozen!
You fail to address Genesis 2:4. That "day" is not 24 hours long. Or maybe you think that the whole action of creation was done in one 24-hour period?
Funny.

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (Genesis 2:4)

The previous verses described the generations of the heavens and of the earth back in the time that they were created.

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 11:29 pm
onewithhim wrote: Mon Dec 25, 2023 7:39 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:34 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #61]

You are overthinking.
Yes, and my hope is that you would give your responses more thought.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 amThe first step in creating the earth was that at first it was without form and void.
Was it just there?

Was it created that way?

Was is created good and then became that way?

Was it created that way in the first day?

Please give a little thought to this. The first step cannot be a description of something that has not yet been created. The first step would be an action towards its creation. Upon completion, the finished product could be evaluated and described. My assumption is that you believe God initially created the earth as it is described in Genesis 1:2.
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:44 am Also, the "six days" was a period of undetermined time, certainly many billions of years. It is so because at Genesis 2:4 "the day" is not a 24 hour day. So "day" does not mean 24 hours.
A day is well defined in Genesis chapter one as an evening and a morning, or one revolution of the earth on its axis!

If a day was billions of today's years back then, then the earth was revolving once every few billion years. That would leave one side of the earth probably molten, and the other siide frozen!
You fail to address Genesis 2:4. That "day" is not 24 hours long. Or maybe you think that the whole action of creation was done in one 24-hour period?
Funny.

These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, (Genesis 2:4)

The previous verses described the generations of the heavens and of the earth back in the time that they were created.
You still haven't addressed the "day" in Genesis 2:4.

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onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:16 am You still haven't addressed the "day" in Genesis 2:4.
Of course I have:

2Genesis 2:

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,


The earth was completed in six days, where a day is one evening and one morning, and God rested on the seventh day.

Genesis 2:4 then states that the above verses (Genesis 1-1 through Genesis 2:3 summarize the generation of the heaven and earth back in the day (meaning time, period, or age) that they were created.

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myth-one.com wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:57 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:16 am You still haven't addressed the "day" in Genesis 2:4.
Of course I have:

2Genesis 2:

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,


The earth was completed in six days, where a day is one evening and one morning, and God rested on the seventh day.

Genesis 2:4 then states that the above verses (Genesis 1-1 through Genesis 2:3 summarize the generation of the heaven and earth back in the day (meaning time, period, or age) that they were created.
That's exactly what I said. A "day" means time, period, or age of undetermined length.

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onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:15 am
myth-one.com wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:57 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:16 am You still haven't addressed the "day" in Genesis 2:4.
Of course I have:

2Genesis 2:

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,


The earth was completed in six days, where a day is one evening and one morning, and God rested on the seventh day.

Genesis 2:4 then states that the above verses (Genesis 1-1 through Genesis 2:3 summarize the generation of the heaven and earth back in the day (meaning time, period, or age) that they were created.
That's exactly what I said. A "day" means time, period, or age of undetermined length.
No, a day is not a period, or age of undetermined length.

A day is determined as one evening and one morning.

So it is not totally "undetermined"!

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:26 pm
onewithhim wrote: Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:15 am
myth-one.com wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:57 am
onewithhim wrote: Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:16 am You still haven't addressed the "day" in Genesis 2:4.
Of course I have:

2Genesis 2:

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,


The earth was completed in six days, where a day is one evening and one morning, and God rested on the seventh day.

Genesis 2:4 then states that the above verses (Genesis 1-1 through Genesis 2:3 summarize the generation of the heaven and earth back in the day (meaning time, period, or age) that they were created.
That's exactly what I said. A "day" means time, period, or age of undetermined length.
No, a day is not a period, or age of undetermined length.

A day is determined as one evening and one morning.

So it is not totally "undetermined"!
Yes it is, as you said according to Genesis 2:4.

Also, "morning" means merely a beginning of the creative period, and "evening" means the end of the creative period. Why would you think that those terms would mean that a day is 24 hours in length?

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