Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?

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Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?

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[ POI Wrote]
But go head and remain completely agnostic, for safety's sake
Q: Is taking an agnostic position on unknown things, a matter of safety (as the quote above implies) or of sensibility aligned with current knowledge of reality?

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Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?

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William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?

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Re: Agnosticism. For safety or sensibilities' sake?

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Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.

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William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pm
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
Perfect! I agree!

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Mae von H wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pm
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
Perfect! I agree!
I should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?

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William wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pm
Mae von H wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pm
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
Perfect! I agree!
I should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?
Yes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?

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Mae von H wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:27 am
William wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pm
Mae von H wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pm
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
Perfect! I agree!
I should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?
Yes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?
All we have to do is get reality to agree to your vote that it's created and we've got something! Let's start voting for all kinds of realities - like lets vote that people don't die, and that ice cream is free of calories!
“And do you think that unto such as you
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm

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boatsnguitars wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:10 am
Mae von H wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:27 am
William wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pm
Mae von H wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pm
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]
what theology do you believe?
I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
Perfect! I agree!
I should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?
Yes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?
All we have to do is get reality to agree to your vote that it's created and we've got something! Let's start voting for all kinds of realities - like lets vote that people don't die, and that ice cream is free of calories!
Reality doesn’t change according to our vote. We have to adjust our vote according to reality.

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Mae von H wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:24 am
boatsnguitars wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:10 am
Mae von H wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:27 am
William wrote: Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:12 pm
Mae von H wrote: Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:42 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:06 pm
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 12:29 pm
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Mae von H wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 5:39 am
William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 2:59 am [Replying to Mae von H in post #8]



I think Natural Theism appears to be the most sensible position within the Theistic setting.

I have no beliefs so to speak, at least not religious ones.
If you have no beliefs, how are you a theist?
How are you defining "beliefs"?
Well you used the word. What do you mean by it?
I think that it is logically sound to conclude that The Universe is a created thing. That means that there is a creator.
If that qualifies as belief, then that is what I believe.
Perfect! I agree!
I should think so, but it would be assumption to say we agree on the details, would you agree?
Yes, again I agree. But agreeing on the foundation is pleasant, no?
All we have to do is get reality to agree to your vote that it's created and we've got something! Let's start voting for all kinds of realities - like lets vote that people don't die, and that ice cream is free of calories!
Reality doesn’t change according to our vote. We have to adjust our vote according to reality.
Aw, that's no fun. I guess you'll have to change your views on Creation, too...
“And do you think that unto such as you
A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew
God gave a secret, and denied it me?
Well, well—what matters it? Believe that, too!”
― Omar Khayyâm

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William wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:39 am
Aw, that's no fun. I guess you'll have to change your views on Creation, too...
Why? I’ve adjusted my thinking all along as I learn the truth. It’s actually lots of fun.

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