Holy Spirit - blaspheme against the Holy Spirit

[Wootah]

Mark 3:28-29
New International Version
28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

So why is it unforgivable to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and not blaspheme against Jesus or aganst God the Father?

[Eaglestarz]

(1) The "unpardonable sin" is suicide and it is "unpardonable" because the soul that committed the sin has transported his soul into a different dimension in which he has no memory about what he previously committed so he cannot ask for forgiveness.

(2) Suicide is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because the suicided soul, by his act of suicide, effectively says to the Holy Spirit: "Holy Spirit, you are an incompetent nincompoop! You are incapable of fixing my life and therefore I am taking charge of it. I AM declaring myself God over my soul and so, here and now, I am ending this life where you are supposed to be in control and I will start it off anew in a different dimension in which I will be God over it going forward. Good Riddance!"

(3) The soul with his free will has told God to get lost and God cannot (will not?) violate his free will. This soul has put God in a dilemma, hasn't he?

(4) But because God doesn't lie, is a long -suffering Forgiver of sins and can transcend all dimensions, realms, spaces and times, Matthew 12:32 makes reference to the fact that the suicided soul will not be forgiven in the first dimension nor in the next. That statement raises a question whether he will have an opportunity to be forgiven in a dimension subsequent to that. Which question is also implied in Mark 3:29 where it is stated that the H.S. blasphemer is in "danger" of eternal damnation and not automatically eternally damned even though he has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

[William]

(1) The "unpardonable sin" is suicide and it is "unpardonable" because the soul that committed the sin has transported his soul into a different dimension in which he has no memory about what he previously committed so he cannot ask for forgiveness.

(2) Suicide is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit because the suicided soul, by his act of suicide, effectively says to the Holy Spirit: "Holy Spirit, you are an incompetent nincompoop! You are incapable of fixing my life and therefore I am taking charge of it. I AM declaring myself God over my soul and so, here and now, I am ending this life where you are supposed to be in control and I will start it off anew in a different dimension in which I will be God over it going forward. Good Riddance!"

(3) The soul with his free will has told God to get lost and God cannot (will not?) violate his free will. This soul has put God in a dilemma, hasn't he?

(4) But because God doesn't lie, is a long -suffering Forgiver of sins and can transcend all dimensions, realms, spaces and times, Matthew 12:32 makes reference to the fact that the suicided soul will not be forgiven in the first dimension nor in the next. That statement raises a question whether he will have an opportunity to be forgiven in a dimension subsequent to that. Which question is also implied in Mark 3:29 where it is stated that the H.S. blasphemer is in "danger" of eternal damnation and not automatically eternally damned even though he has blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

Another Perspective...

[Eaglestarz]

You see this "Near Death Experience" as a different perspective from the one I described because I failed to make it clear that if the suicided soul is unsuccessful in his attempt to commit suicide, he is not a "suicided soul" and did not commit the unpardonable sin. Didn't think I had to.

This is clear evidence of the complexity and vitality of communication.

THANK GOD FOR JESUS!

[2ndpillar2]

Mark 3:28-29
New International Version
28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

So why is it unforgivable to blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and not blaspheme against Jesus or aganst God the Father?

The "Spirit of God" would be the same "Spirit of prophecy", which is the "Word of God" which Yeshua was named the "Word of God" (Rev 19:13), or the Word made flesh, which was created by the "Father". You can kill the son of man, Yeshua, and deny him, but if you deny the "Word of God", as is done by the "Christians", when they nail the "Word" to a cross, you are in trouble.

[William]

You see this "Near Death Experience" as a different perspective from the one I described because I failed to make it clear that if the suicided soul is unsuccessful in his attempt to commit suicide, he is not a "suicided soul" and did not commit the unpardonable sin. Didn't think I had to.

This is clear evidence of the complexity and vitality of communication.

THANK GOD FOR JESUS!

Your lack of compassion and empathy have been noted. Whatever "God" you are believing in, I do not think it is the "Bible" one, although I do understand people's confusion over that, given both the harsh orders the God is reported as giving out and the harsh environment we find ourselves existing in...

Ultimately it does not matter that I believe the boy in the video dodged a bullet. His report (the interaction he has with "God and the two angels) suggests otherwise but that information appears to be (currently) hidden from your own awareness. He wasn't told to "return to his earthly body" and was even asked by one of the angels "did he want to stay?"

If you require a God which is unwilling to forgive one particular thing, then that is between you and your god.

I have already given my view on the so-called "unpardonable sin" back in post #19

[Eaglestarz]

OMG! I don't know what I'm saying or failing to say that causes you to completely misunderstand me!

All I know is that I, a failed suicided soul myself, would never again attempt that act because I have totally and completely submitted my soul to God's control and I am 100% in agreement with that young man's account.

Because the Wicked One is a true Master of his craft, you will forever read my comments to mean the opposite of what I'm trying to communicate.

Jesus IS God! I CANNOT make such a statement without Divine inspiration from God's Holy Spirit!!

[Eaglestarz]

Okay William, I thought over our discourse and I think I know what the issue is. I think you didn't read number (4) of my original comment and interpreted what you read of my comment to be saying that suicided souls are eternally damned and cannot be pardoned. You believe such a stance is harsh and merciless to both the suicide victim and their loved ones who are left behind who can do nothing to save their loved ones from eternal damnation.

But your interpretation is incorrect as I was absolutely not saying that. But one of the things I am saying is that Jesus Christ Himself, whom I believe is God Incarnate, was the One who identified the "Unpardonable Sin" and if anyone goes about making up caveats to His law, they're doing God a dis-service by casting aspersions on His Holy Word. Such a person is actually saying he's more compassionate than God Himself.

The truth is that to which I alluded in number 4 of my original comment: that God did, in fact, provide a way out for the Unpardonable Sinner. He didn't expound upon it but it is absolutely there. And the reason why the sin gets that label is because it is exactly that in the realm in which the sinner committed the sin.

This subject matter raises so many issues including Dying With Dignity and Reincarnation and much more. I could write a book but I won't. I'll just let you respond, if you so choose, and we'll take it up from there.

[myth-one.com]

No sin prevents one from salvation!

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

The "unpardonable sin" is certainly a sin. So, it has no dominion over our salvation.

[Wootah]

No sin prevents one from salvation!

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

The "unpardonable sin" is certainly a sin. So, it has no dominion over our salvation.

Scripture does not contradict scripture and all scripture is valid.

So your interpretation is violating this.

Denying Jesus is a sin and is unforgivable. The Holy Spirit testifies to Jesus and so denying this is unforgivable.

[Eaglestarz]

No sin prevents one from salvation!

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. (Romans 6:14)

The "unpardonable sin" is certainly a sin. So, it has no dominion over our salvation.

The "Unpardonable Sin" is not eternally unpardonable but the committer of that particular sin, as stated by God Himself, "is in danger of eternal damnation." This obviously means that the committer of that sin can be pardoned because he is not immediately eternally damned but is only "in danger" of it.

It's simply a question of God's Timing and the label of "unpardonable" simply refers to the fact that the sin cannot be pardoned in the space and time in which it was committed because the sin itself necessarily removes the sinner into a different space and time to obtain his pardon.