Acts - The Stoning of Stephen

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Acts - The Stoning of Stephen

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The Stoning of Stephen
54 When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him. 55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. 56 “Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.”

57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him, 58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.

59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.
Taken from: https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/ ... 3265#73265

Why when Stephen (who was full of the Holy Spirit) looks to heaven and sees the Father and the Son together does he call out to Jesus to receive his spirit and to forgive them?
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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Re: Acts - The Stoning of Stephen

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To all respondents,

Well hath Wootah stated his position.

"Why is everyone so quick to reason God might be petty. Now that is creating God in our own image .”

Wootah does not need to back down in any way on this topic.

The other respondents have Madde their own “man made interpretations that Jesus is merely a man like the rest of us”

I find it ironic that they claim that a mere mortal has the power to atone for the sins of all mankind. Where is this doctrine taught in the Bible?

If Jesus Christ was just a mere mortal, then anyone else also would have the power to atone for the sins of another.

Since it is obvious that JESUS CHRIST has been given “ALL THAT THE FATHER HATH, HAS BEEN GIVEN ALL JUDGEMENT, HAS THE POWER TO BRING EVEN MORE GLORY TO THE FATHER, IS ALSO GLORIFIED LIKEWISE BY THE FATHER, THAT WE MAY BE ONE WITH THE FATHER AS HE IS, AND THAT HE WILL REIGN AS KING OF kings AND LORD OF lords, then this establishes his position as GOD the SON.

For according to the scriptures Jesus Christ is the creator of heaven and earth.

You JW’s deny that Jesus is in fact Emmanuel or God with us.

So I stand with Wootah on his position that Jesus Christ is indeed God the Son.

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Re: Acts - The Stoning of Stephen

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onewithhim wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:18 pm
Difflugia wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:33 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:41 pmJesus was the first thing created by God (thus he is called the "only-begotten")
If he's the "only-begotten," wouldn't be be the first thing begotten of God rather than created by? Isn't that what you affirmed in a previous thread?
"Begotten of" means "created by."
So the created things saved themselves and entered heaven.
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Wootah wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:40 pm
onewithhim wrote: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:18 pm
Difflugia wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:33 pm
onewithhim wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:41 pmJesus was the first thing created by God (thus he is called the "only-begotten")
If he's the "only-begotten," wouldn't be be the first thing begotten of God rather than created by? Isn't that what you affirmed in a previous thread?
"Begotten of" means "created by."
So the created things saved themselves and entered heaven.
The created Jesus died to save the world of mankind, and that savior didn't have to be God. It was a perfect man that had to balance the scales of justice opposite to Adam, also a perfect man. Jesus was called "the last Adam," and that shows us that he was taking care of God's purposes and will the opposite way that Adam took care of listening to God and thriving on the earth forever. Adam failed but Jesus showed that a man could obey God even if he was tortured. "'The first man Adam became a living soul.' The last Adam became a life-giving spirit." (I Corinthians 15:45)

And---"For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive." (I Corinthians 15:22)

We can see that it was a perfect MAN that had to die for us, since Adam was a perfect man. God did not have to die, never mind the fact that God can't die. The scales of justice were balanced. And then Jesus returned to heaven to be with his Father who is God. (John 17:3)

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Re: Acts - The Stoning of Stephen

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Wootah wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:52 am
1213 wrote: Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:33 am
Wootah wrote: Thu Mar 14, 2024 9:54 pm ...
There is no logical way out of this other than Jesus is God.
So, you think God can't just be merciful and forgive for free?
Come up with an example that is just.
The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
Luke 5:21-25

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