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"Human Garbage"

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This term was introduced as an explanation of God's opinion of some humans.

"He was clearly saying some people will be viewed by God as "human garbage". You dont torture your garbage; you dispose of it and forget it."

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This is nothing less than a method with which to excuse the hatred of and violence against certain humans. A similar practice was used to justify the massive genocide of indigenous peoples in the area we now call North America. The goal is to view fellow humans as something other, something different than the humans committing the violence. Phrases such as "dirt worshipers", "heathens", and "redskins" were used to vilify and dehumanize these peoples and to glorify genocide.

Let's not forget that Jesus used this method as well in his explanation of the "Wheat and the Weeds" parable.

Is this an example of the superior morality Christians claim to possess?


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Tcg wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:33 amLet's not forget that Jesus used this method as well in his explanation of the "Wheat and the Weeds" parable.
At the risk of proving Godwin's Law in the first response, there's a more recent historical example of this.
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Hello Tcg

How is this not just 'a random ramble'?
It sounds like sensationalist pomp to me. You have indians, you have Jesus, you have garbage dumps, you have rightful indignation , you have... what a mess!
The word scum is a modern derogatory term, in sport today you can still take out the trash while taking care of business. Eminem was trailer trash, or white trash...I forget.
Are you the protector of sensibilities in this wicked world. I learned this week that I am considered to be part of The Whore of Babylon...I am intrigued as to what part, that might be.
If people want to do the legwork on this 'subject' then I suggest that they start with Dr. Bart D. Ehrman's 'The history of Heaven and Hell.'

Apparently the OT,(the Jesus Bible), doesn't have a Hell in it until a fringe notion of Final Judgement starts to surface around 200BC, in Apocalyptic Judaism. When you are dead you are dead ,with them and whether in the grave or in the Pauper's pit, or local dump, you can be burned, buried or eaten by the worms. Basically an observation of how money follows money....same as today.

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Difflugia wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:57 pm
Tcg wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:33 amLet's not forget that Jesus used this method as well in his explanation of the "Wheat and the Weeds" parable.
At the risk of proving Godwin's Law in the first response, there's a more recent historical example of this.
I'm confused, does Godwin's Law apply to the genocides of North American tribes?

I can provide a more recent example to clarify my intended point. A good friend of mine is a Vietnam vet. He was an infantry man with the U.S. Marine Corp. and his job of course included killing other humans. He always refers to Vietnamese people as "gooks." This allows him to think of them as something other, something less than human. I think it is his way of justifying in his mind the killing he participated in. Using the term "human garbage" seems to serve a similar purpose.


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Tcg wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:06 pmI'm confused, does Godwin's Law apply to the genocides of North American tribes?
No. I meant that I referenced Nazis myself in the first response.
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Difflugia wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:13 pm
Tcg wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:06 pmI'm confused, does Godwin's Law apply to the genocides of North American tribes?
No. I meant that I referenced Nazis myself in the first response.
According to the Book of Mormon, the North American tribes are really the evil Lamanites🐒
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[Replying to Tcg in post #1]

Would any care to comment on the morality of calling a huge group of folks "human garbage?" Do all Christians share this moral standard? Is this an accurate view of God's morality?


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Hello Tcg

The history of hurtful words is fascinating. I thank you Tcg for the prompt.

I was pondering the reasons for calling women ' broads', in America....

"Broad: Slang sense of "woman" is by 1911, perhaps suggestive of broad hips, but it also might trace to American English abroadwife, word for a woman (often a slave) away from her husband. Earliest use of the slang word suggests immorality or coarse, low-class women."

Thank You also ,Tcg, for prompting me to consider weird funerial practices. The guys who feed the dead to vultures have to be right up there. The world's first hackers. Apparently the practice is now frowned upon as it was killing the vultures. Amazing, I just considered it a form of recycling or perhaps even an accelerated aid to reincarnation.

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Hello

"We know they're terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we're witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our .... It's poisoning the blood of our country. It's so bad. And people are coming in with disease, people are coming in with every possible thing that you could have."

Where did this come from?

Is this about indians ,Tcg?

Tcg Opening Post "The goal is to view fellow humans as something other, something different than the humans committing the violence"

Tcg asks - "Is this an example of the superior morality Christians claim to possess"

As fate would have it these are the words of a professed Christian, so maybe you are correct, Tcg


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