Jesus is God - Acts 20:28

[Wootah]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=ESV

28 Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood.

So we are to pay careful attention and care for the church of God, which He obtained with his own blood.

Isn't it clear that God obtained the church with his own blood?

[Wootah]

[Replying to DB in post #20]

Welcome to the forum. What is your sound exegesis of the topic?

[1213]

Legally, mankind's future belonged to sin and eventual death before Jesus' sacrifice because of Adam and Eve handing over mankind to sin.

Jesus forgave sins long before his death. I don't think there is any Biblical support for the idea that God could not allow sins to be forgiven without a sacrifice.

The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
Luke 5:21-25

[Wootah]

Legally, mankind's future belonged to sin and eventual death before Jesus' sacrifice because of Adam and Eve handing over mankind to sin.

Jesus forgave sins long before his death. I don't think there is any Biblical support for the idea that God could not allow sins to be forgiven without a sacrifice.

The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
Luke 5:21-25

Why did Jesus die on a cross?

[JehovahsWitness]

Legally, mankind's future belonged to sin and eventual death before Jesus' sacrifice because of Adam and Eve handing over mankind to sin.

Jesus forgave sins long before his death. I don't think there is any Biblical support for the idea that God could not allow sins to be forgiven without a sacrifice.

The scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, "Who is this that speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?" But Jesus, perceiving their thoughts, answered them, "Why are you reasoning so in your hearts? Which is easier to say, 'Your sins are forgiven you;' or to say, 'Arise and walk?' But that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins" (he said to the paralyzed man), "I tell you, arise, and take up your cot, and go to your house." Immediately he rose up before them, and took up that which he was laying on, and departed to his house, glorifying God.
Luke 5:21-25

Why did Jesus die on a cross?

Whether we have the hope of living forever in earth or ruling in heaven we all nobody can hope to live forever with the ransom of Christs sacrifice.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #24]

1213 - thinks Jesus can forgive without His own sacrifice. So why all the hullabaloo?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #24]

1213 - thinks Jesus can forgive without His own sacrifice. So why all the hullabaloo?

1213 may have meant that the men of old could be counted as righteous before Jesus' sacrifice, for the Bible says that is true, (Hebrews 11:4,7) but eventually that sacrifice must happen for anyone to have their sins forgiven conclusively.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #24]

1213 - thinks Jesus can forgive without His own sacrifice. So why all the hullabaloo?

1213 may have meant that the men of old could be counted as righteous before Jesus' sacrifice, for the Bible says that is true, (Hebrews 11:4,7) but eventually that sacrifice must happen for anyone to have their sins forgiven conclusively.

No offence - I await his response.

[DB]

[Replying to DB in post #20]

Welcome to the forum. What is your sound exegesis of the topic?

Did I not offer it already?
I'm a Biblical Unitarian (not a universalist).
God the Father is the only divine entity in the entire universe, and that which transcends the physical realm.
Jesus Christ was born 6-5 bc, and had no existence or consciousness prior to that - he was 200% human and nothing more.
His sacrifice on the cross was the final Yom Kippur - sins were purged as in the Day of Atonement, and God abrogated the Law due to Christ's fulfillment of it, for it was the Law that held all men guilty and under a yoke before God (where there is no law, there is no sin).
For Christ's perfect obedience i.e. Jesus loved God with all his heart, mind, and soul, God exalted him above all other creatures under the sun (God does not obey Himself, nor exalt Himself to a higher rank, or to what is already His, obviously).
Those that repent, and accept Christ's lordship according to the level that God exalted him (not equal or above God, Himself), shall be saved.

[Wootah]

[Replying to DB in post #28]

Yeah that is just an intro. Welcome to the forum.

Now what is your exegesis of acts 20:28? On the topic ....

[1213]

Why did Jesus die on a cross?

Bible tells the reason was this:

For to this end Christ died, rose, and lived again, that he might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
Romans 14:9
Most assuredly, I tell you, the hour comes, and now is, when the dead will hear the Son of God's voice; and those who hear will live.
John 5:25
Behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from the top to the bottom. The earth quaked and the rocks were split. The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised;
Matt. 27:51-52

This is basically copied to the Lord of the rings, The return of the king, where Aragorn goes to the place where dead people are and gathers back those who are loyal to him. Similarly Jesus went to death and took those who were loyal to God with him and so he became also the lord of the dead.