What was the gospel/good news that Jesus taught the Apostles to share door to door and is the same currently shared??

[konagold3]

Aloha

Is it possible that Christians have Jesus' Gospel [good news] message incorrect or very incomplete??

Jesus sent the Apostles out door to door two by two sharing the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven.

Reportedly the people, the folks, heard them gladly.

The current Christian version of the gospel message is too premature to be the good news the Apostles of Jesus shared door to door since Jesus was yet to be put to death.

The current gospel runs along the lines [in part and a condensed version for purpose of this question], that God's only begotten Son, Jesus, died for the sins of mankind; it is only through Jesus sacrifice that mankind, humanity, is forgiven; and one must be saved, redeemed by the blood sacrifice of Jesus and then born again taking Jesus into ones heart and soul to enter eternal life in the kingdom of Heaven.

Given that the Apostles could not accept it when Jesus told them he would die and rise, it would not make sense for the Apostles to have said door to door in folks homes, words to the effect that : "Rabbi Jesus, Teacher, our master, is going to die for your sins to mortify "Our Father,[who, Jesus taught IS love,by the way] to appease a angry God who couldn't get over the default of Adam and Eve in the Garden to not live up to God's command to not partake of the fruit of the tree of knowledge"

Wouldn't it then make more sense if the Apostles door to door message were along the more appealing lines about the love of God that Jesus taught, something like the loving core of Jesus teachings perhaps that God is our Father and we are all members of the family of humanity each of us a child of God; that we are all family because we all have a Creator Parent in common; we should love God; we should love our neighbor as we love ourselves and do unto them as we would have done unto us; that the spirit of God resides in all of us we only need to listen and wholoves each one of us; and by belief in this we have life eternal

So is it possible in the aftermath of the resurrection and in reacting to the resurrection, did Peter and the Apostles and later Paul substitute the Big News for the Good News, thus creating a religion about Jesus rather than teaching folks how to live the religion OF Jesus and diluting His message of love??

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[1213]

[Replying to 1213 in post #2]
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Mahalo for the reply

However the question is NOT about the end times, rather the current Christian version of the Gospel regarding the resurrection and the redemption of sin IS NOT the message the Apostles gave door to door as Jesus had not yet been crucified given that fact what was the Gospel message given then??

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Yes, not about the end times. It was about has the Gospel Jesus was speaking declared to all. Because the end has not come, it can be said the Gospel has not been preached yet for all. And I think the message Church preaches is not the same as what Jesus declared.

[onewithhim]

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Is it possible that Christians have Jesus' Gospel [good news] message incorrect or very incomplete??
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Probably. If the Gospel of the Kingdom would have been preached, the end would have come.

This Gospel of the Kingdom will be preached in the whole world for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Matt. 24:14

The gospel of the Kingdom IS now being preached, and there is a little more time to preach. The end will come after God decides that the preaching work is done.

The "great commission" commands Christians to teach the gospel to all nations:

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:19-20)

However, even with satellites and television, will we ever spread the true gospel among all nations and fulfill the great commission? Obviously not, since God has to send an angel to fulfill this prophecy before the end of this age can occur:

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. (Revelation 14:6)

So the gospel will not be taught to all nations by mankind.

So now you are questioning Scripture. It says that all the nations will get a witness and then the end will come. It doesn't say that everbody in the nations will be preached to, but the preaching work would be done in all nations.

Here is what it says:

And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people. (Revelation 14:6)

That is true as we can see today. Jehovah's Witnesses have preached in every nation. The end is around the corner.

Preaching in every nation is not sufficient!

You must preach the "everlasting gospel".

I cannot speak for the Jehovah's Wittnesses, but you preach that mankind will live on the earth eternally.

That's not the gospel message.

Yes it certainly is. That is one reason Jesus died. So that humans could take up where Adam left off due to his introducing sin and death into the world. It was always God's purpose that humans should live on the physical earth with physical bodies, and Jesus came to fulfill that plan. God's original plan is not to be subverted. Jesus died to take away the sting of death, and because of his sacrifice we can live forever, most on the earth, a relatively small group in heaven.

[myth-one.com]

Jesus died to take away the sting of death, and because of his sacrifice we can live forever, most on the earth, a relatively small group in heaven.

That's correct, but not as humans.

We gain everlasting life by being born again of the Spirit (God) as a spirit.

Spirits can't die.

Thus, we are born again as a spirit into everlasting life.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #13]

People don't need to be born again to be the receivers of God's mercy and everlasting life. Only the 144,000 that are going to heaven to rule with Jesus. God planned to have physical humans take care of the earth, and His plan hasn't changed. Adam was a physical person, made from dust. He wasn't a spirit being. Neither will those be that will take over Adam's job.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #13]

People don't need to be born again to be the receivers of God's mercy and everlasting life. Only the 144,000 that are going to heaven to rule with Jesus. God planned to have physical humans take care of the earth, and His plan hasn't changed. Adam was a physical person, made from dust. He wasn't a spirit being. Neither will those be that will take over Adam's job.

Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. (John 3:3)

Adam is dead.

Those that take over Adam's job of caretakers of the earth need to live much longer than Adam.

So they will be born again of the Spirit as spirits which live forever.

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16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

Nothing physical can be guaranteed to last forever.

Those that take over Adam's job will be those that believe in Jesus. They will have everlasting life which is not physical.

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #13]

God planned to have physical humans take care of the earth, and His plan hasn't changed.

The original caretakers of the earth were angels under the command of Lucifer.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #13]

God planned to have physical humans take care of the earth, and His plan hasn't changed.

The original caretakers of the earth were angels under the command of Lucifer.

God would not give the Devil an assignment for anything. Where does it say in the Bible that God allowed the Devil to take care of the earth, before Adam and Eve?

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #13]

God planned to have physical humans take care of the earth, and His plan hasn't changed.

The original caretakers of the earth were angels under the command of Lucifer.

God would not give the Devil an assignment for anything. Where does it say in the Bible that God allowed the Devil to take care of the earth, before Adam and Eve?

And the devil, taking him up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whosoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. (Luke 4:5-7)

Notice that Jesus did not question the devil's authority to give him power over the earth. He knew that Satan did indeed have control over the earth and could give or share this power with whomever he pleased. Jesus' immediate response was:

Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

[onewithhim]

[Replying to myth-one.com in post #13]

God planned to have physical humans take care of the earth, and His plan hasn't changed.

The original caretakers of the earth were angels under the command of Lucifer.

God would not give the Devil an assignment for anything. Where does it say in the Bible that God allowed the Devil to take care of the earth, before Adam and Eve?

And the devil, taking him up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whosoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine. (Luke 4:5-7)

Notice that Jesus did not question the devil's authority to give him power over the earth. He knew that Satan did indeed have control over the earth and could give or share this power with whomever he pleased. Jesus' immediate response was:

Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. (Luke 4:8)

It doesn't say that the Devil received control over the earth BEFORE Adam and Eve. That is what I'm asking. Where does it say that the Devil was assigned to the earth before the first physical human beings?

[JehovahsWitness]

... the question is NOT about the end times, rather the current Christian version of the Gospel ....

There can be no understanding the good news (The gospel) without understanding what the kingdom is (After all it is the good news of God's kingdom).

A KINGDOM is a type of government, so the Good news of the Kingdom is that Jesus will head a GOVERNMENT that He will destroy all human governments and replace them with his own (kingdom) Government. This government will rule over the entire planet earth

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Under this one world government (KINGDOM) , humans will live forever in peace with no sickness, crime, war suffering , hunger or death.

Good news indeed!


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