If god created...

[bernee51]

OK theists you reckon god did all the creating.

Did he set things in motion e.g. the Big Bang and then let evolution take over?

Or is he still creating as we trundle along?

Or did he stop his business of creating sometime between now and the Big Bang?

These would be the only three options as far as I can tell (other than him not existing at all)

So which is it?

[McCulloch]

While he is absent for long unaccountable periods of time, Aslan periodically returns to change, direct and correct the situation in Narnia.

[InTheFlesh]

OK theists you reckon god did all the creating.
Did he set things in motion e.g. the Big Bang and then let evolution take over?

When he spoke, it came to pass.
When his word is sent forth, it will accomplish.

Or is he still creating as we trundle along?

Creating what?

Or did he stop his business of creating sometime between now and the Big Bang?

Are you saying that he created the big bang?

These would be the only three options as far as I can tell (other than him not existing at all)
So which is it?

What are you trying to determine?

[micatala]

OK theists you reckon god did all the creating.

Did he set things in motion e.g. the Big Bang and then let evolution take over?

Or is he still creating as we trundle along?

Or did he stop his business of creating sometime between now and the Big Bang?

These would be the only three options as far as I can tell (other than him not existing at all)

So which is it?

I hold to option 1, and think of the Big Bang as the moment of creation.

The evidence we have clearly indicates that cosmic and biological evolution occurred.

[Homicidal_Cherry53]

What are you trying to determine?

He's trying to determine what you think about God. Do you think he is actively manipulating and creating as we speak? Do you think he predetermined the course of the universe, beginning with the Big Bang? Or, do you think he predetermined everything and stopped physically interfering at some other point?

[bernee51]

OK theists you reckon god did all the creating.
Did he set things in motion e.g. the Big Bang and then let evolution take over?

When he spoke, it came to pass.
When his word is sent forth, it will accomplish.

Is this meant to nmean he cerate but hasn't finished?

Or is he still creating as we trundle along?

Creating what?

The universe.

It continues to grow and change - as do you.

Or did he stop his business of creating sometime between now and the Big Bang?

Are you saying that he created the big bang?

No I am asking you if you think he did.

What are you trying to determine?

What view theists hold as to the act of creation, Was it a one time happening or is it still going on?

[Nameless]

OK theists you reckon god did all the creating.

Did he set things in motion e.g. the Big Bang and then let evolution take over?

Or is he still creating as we trundle along?

Or did he stop his business of creating sometime between now and the Big Bang?

These would be the only three options as far as I can tell (other than him not existing at all)

Do you mean from the JudeoXtian POV?
There are scientists who favor that all 'moments' arise synchronously and are instantly annihilated on arisal, Now!
Nothing is 'done', by 'god' or anyone else, nor can there be. Dualism cannot actually exist in 'monism'. As 'god' is considered a 'monism', there is, nor can ever be anything else, nor can there be 'qualities' in a monism.
This might be a fourth option.

[rowen]

I think God created at an instant. The Biblical descriptions of periods are for us to frame in our mind. Just an opinion though, I have not thoroughly thought it through

[bernee51]

I think God created at an instant. The Biblical descriptions of periods are for us to frame in our mind. Just an opinion though, I have not thoroughly thought it through

Created all we see in an instant? Or the universe i.e. Big Bang and then let it evolve?

[Hugh]

Humanity now possessed adequate scientific know-how and technical skills to prove things against the classical doctrines, however only few liberated themselves from the religious anathema which were programmed to their consciousness by the traditional upbringing and environs.
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Indeed … one must have guts to understand the rationale that humanity must be free from thus ambiguities and start this generation the basic understanding that reality is different from what had been preached by religion that man was created by god … instead the other way around.
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Even Jesus of Nazareth had not substantiated the true description of God (where, what, how & when was the true origin) - in the sense that future generation shall no longer argue its ambiguous description. He left us open and circular phrases as the battle cry of religion. And unfortunately, was the free for all interpretation of later generations. Some entities had more influenced and authority (anathema) over the others and had the sole accessed in literature and later the formation of the most ambiguous faith back-up by literary heresy integrated in some lines of the bible. Truly ... it was the later generation intervention that strengthened the ambiguous belief. If Jesus of Nazareth was truly God as Christian had conceived ... World had no chaos today.
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The point is, God has the qualities that Man doesn't have . . . qualities that Man himself knows he cannot have . . .omnipotence, omniscience et al.
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Man dies. But he fears death and wants to live longer, he then created God in order for him to look up to something after death. God now is immortal.
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Man cannot do everything. He feels inadequate he cannot fulfill bigger tasks, he then created God so that he can let God do the impossible' things for him. God now is omnipotent.
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Man (so far) cannot understand everything. He thinks he cannot explain everything around him, he then created God so that he can get short-cut answers to his inquiries. God now is omniscient.
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Man is alone. He distrusts his fellow for they've done awful things to him, he then made God his companion and he won't be needing anyone anymore. He also wants God to watch over him wherever he is. God now is selfless and omnipresent.
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God is Man's model. It has become so powerful that he fears his creation already. So in order for him to get everybody else to appreciate his creation, God had 'perfect human qualities' -- sincere, loving, faithful et al. No one should want to praise a frightening God right? Now it has become Man's perfect model to emulate.
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God is the manifestation of Man's need for perfection. He created God to compensate his flaws.