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Does Judaism hold a Young Earth/Universe belief- ideology?

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catalyst wrote:Does Judaism hold a Young Earth/Universe belief- ideology?
There might be a very small minority, among the ultra-conservative, but in general, no. Nor do they feel the story of Genesis is literal.

There are some, but they are extremely rare. Even those people who oppose Evolution on religious grounds accept an older earth.

Here is a little blurb from a Jewish comedian that will explain the general Jewish attitude towards YEC.

“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Tah for the reply Goat.

I would love to watch the You Tube, but I am currently having issues loading any You Tube stuff. (keep getting an error message about an add-on) :confused2:

Who is the comedian? I may have already seen it to know what you are talking about, or at least be able to find it via another avenue.

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catalyst wrote:Tah for the reply Goat.

I would love to watch the You Tube, but I am currently having issues loading any You Tube stuff. (keep getting an error message about an add-on) :confused2:

Who is the comedian? I may have already seen it to know what you are talking about, or at least be able to find it via another avenue.
It is Lewis Black, a little segway from his one man show called 'Red white and screwed'.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

Steven Novella

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I have posted this many times. For the record, again; a Kabbalist, or Jewish mystic, named Nechunya ben HaKanah once calculated from esoteric Names of God in the Torah that the moment of the beginning of Creation was about 15.3 billion years ago, which is about the same time as that calculated by modern astrophysicists. It would be tempting to think that HaKanah started with that figure and worked backward, but it's hard to guess where he might have gotten it; he lived in the first century of the Common Era, not long after Jesus.

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cnorman18 wrote:I have posted this many times. For the record, again; a Kabbalist, or Jewish mystic, named Nechunya ben HaKanah once calculated from esoteric Names of God in the Torah that the moment of the beginning of Creation was about 15.3 billion years ago, which is about the same time as that calculated by modern astrophysicists. It would be tempting to think that HaKanah started with that figure and worked backward, but it's hard to guess where he might have gotten it; he lived in the first century of the Common Era, not long after Jesus.
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Thank you for that info. It is very interesting. It is perhaps apparent that HaKanah therefore believed in a creator god. It would be interesting to know how be came to that conclusion. Is there anywhere I can read more about this fellow?

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catalyst wrote:
cnorman18 wrote:I have posted this many times. For the record, again; a Kabbalist, or Jewish mystic, named Nechunya ben HaKanah once calculated from esoteric Names of God in the Torah that the moment of the beginning of Creation was about 15.3 billion years ago, which is about the same time as that calculated by modern astrophysicists. It would be tempting to think that HaKanah started with that figure and worked backward, but it's hard to guess where he might have gotten it; he lived in the first century of the Common Era, not long after Jesus.
Hi C,

Thank you for that info. It is very interesting. It is perhaps apparent that HaKanah therefore believed in a creator god. It would be interesting to know how be came to that conclusion. Is there anywhere I can read more about this fellow?
Hi back, C.

Probably not. that information comes from an appendix in the only decent book ever written on the "Bible Codes" phenomenon, Cracking the Bible Code by Jeffrey Satinover. Information on early Kabbalists is hard to find; it's an area for specialists.

You can take it from me - Jews who lived before 1900 or so and didn't believe in a creator God would be hard to find, too. We just don't necessarily or commonly believe in a young Earth or a 6-day Creation.

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catalyst wrote:Does Judaism hold a Young Earth/Universe belief- ideology?
There might be a very small minority, among the ultra-conservative, but in general, no. Nor do they feel the story of Genesis is literal.

There are some, but they are extremely rare. Even those people who oppose Evolution on religious grounds accept an older earth.

Here is a little blurb from a Jewish comedian that will explain the general Jewish attitude towards YEC.

Technically speaking, (as great as he is) Lewis Black is an irreligious atheist, Jewish only by heritage. So, I'm afraid that I don't see the merit of his comedy in a discussion of a particular theological Jewish belief.

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