150 years of Darwin

[Grumpy]

We constantly see on this subforum(Science and Religion)those who argue about evolution who are...in error about what Evolution is and why we accept it as scientific fact(it did happen)and that theory to explain thats fact confirmed to the extent that any human knowledge can be. We may have knock down drag out combat over, let's call them "Subtheories" which differ with each other(Gradualism vs, Punctuated Equilibrium) within the main theory(basically, descent with modification).

Those who wish to disagree should first go here...

http://www.nsf.gov/news/special_reports/darwin/

This site explains the evidence and reasoning behind the acceptance of the theory of evolution, that the evidence is from many fields of science, not just biology, and what can be stated with a good deal of certainty and what needs further study.

I will defend what this site has to say, but you must point out EXACTLY what part of which segment of the presentation you disagree with. There is a button to recieve only a text version, if you have limited bandwith.

This thread has nothing to do with theism or lack thereof, only the facts as we know them to be by scientific investigation.

So, what do you disagree with in this presentation from the National Science Foundation, a very good source?

If others have questions or comments on this presentation, feel free, but on topic please.

Grumpy

[Goat]

You guys do more double speak than a well educated politician. Once science proves something it is no longer a theory. Your examples are non existent. I will no longer waste my time here because it's the same ole crap over & over. There is no proof PERIOD & Never will be. Very few scientists believe in Darwin's theory anymore. Simply because there still isn't any proof after all these years!!!

I fail to see how 'I can't understand what you are saying' means it is 'double speak'.
Science has very precise language about many things, and definitions are part of it. You do have the choice of not attempting to understand what you are bashing, or you could actually attempt to understand , so you can make a coherent argument against it. If actually trying to understand what you are opposing is a 'waste of time' then, you wasting your time. When actually trying to discuss things , there are certain things you should be aware of.
1) Proper terminology so you do not use the logical fallacy of equivocation.
2) Context
3) What is actually being said by the opposition so you do not create straw man arguments.

Thus far, when it comes to a discussion about evolution and Darwin, you have failed on all three of those accounts.

[micatala]

You guys do more double speak than a well educated politician.

Blanket statement applied to everyone else on the thread.

Once science proves something it is no longer a theory.

Following your logic, neither Einstein's nor Newton's theory of gravity is a theory anymore. Atomic theory is no longer a theory.

Your examples are non existent.

Wishful thinking on your part.

I will no longer waste my time here because it's the same ole crap over & over.

This seems to apply more to your posts than anyone else's.

There is no proof PERIOD & Never will be.

There is evidence and wishing it away does not make it disappear. Part of debate is actually reading and responding to the arguemnts of the other participants.

Very few scientists believe in Darwin's theory anymore.

Unless you define the overwhelming majority of professional biologists which numbers in the thousands as "very few", this is false.