Jehovah’s Witnesses only ones that will be saved?????

[Donray]

Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that only 144,000 people will go to heaven. God chooses these 144,000 individuals, the process began with the first century Christians and was completed in the year 1935. Of course from 1879 (the year the Watchtower started) till 1935 only faithful Jehovah’s Witnesses were chosen for this special role. All faithful Jehovah’s Witnesses not chosen to be among the 144,000 elite that go to heaven (those joining the Watchtower after 1935) will spend eternity on earth. All other people on the earth will be destroyed at war of Armageddon here on earth. This would also include any Jehovah's Witnesses who has been disfellowshipped or is otherwise unfaithful to the Watchtower and has not worked his or her way back into the good graces of the Watchtower by the time of Armageddon.

If one believes the JWs all other Christians and everyone that is not a JW will not go to heaven or live on the Earth after Armageddon.

Question for debate is JW the only true Christin religion or is it some type of cult that calls itself Christian?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 265 by onewithhim] Are thirty year olds getting through armegeddon on their parents coattails? Your GB is insisting that if someone is old enough to drive they have reached the age of accountability and will not survive on account of their parents.

Thirty-year-olds are not getting through Armageddon on their parents' coattails. They have to stand on their own.

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[Donray]

Question, what happens to all the people that died and knew nothing about Jesus? This is millions of people born before 800 BC. Jews had multiple gods before then.

What about the people that currently know nothing about Jesus?

Does God send all these to hell?

[JehovahsWitness]

Question, what happens to all the people that died and knew nothing about Jesus? This is millions of people born before 800 BC. Jews had multiple gods before then.

What about the people that currently know nothing about Jesus?

Does God send all these to hell?

Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in hell. Did you not know that?

[Donray]

Question, what happens to all the people that died and knew nothing about Jesus? This is millions of people born before 800 BC. Jews had multiple gods before then.

What about the people that currently know nothing about Jesus?

Does God send all these to hell?

Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in hell. Did you not know that?

Don't care, answer the question of what will happen to these millions? What will happen to all the Neanderthals?

[ttruscott]

Question, what happens to all the people that died and knew nothing about Jesus? This is millions of people born before 800 BC. Jews had multiple gods before then.

What about the people that currently know nothing about Jesus?

Does God send all these to hell?

There is nobody in all of history that does not know about Jesus and who has not either put their faith in Him or put their faith in Him being a liar so that none have an excuse. Romans 1:20 For since / from the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. "God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen," means they have been clearly proven.

All folks who claim to never have heard of Him nor seen the proof have repressed their memories of the proof due to their love for sin more than their love for truth as the rest of Rom 1 explains in pretty straight forward terms.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 294 by Donray]

Your question: Does God send all these to hell?

Well obviously the answer to your question as to who we believe will get sent to hell is in the point I made. To illustrate: If someone doesn't believe that Sweden exists, how many people do you do you think they believe took a holiday there last year?


JW

[Donray]

[Replying to post 294 by Donray]

Your question: Does God send all these to hell?

Well obviously the answer to your question as to who we believe will get sent to hell is in the point I made. To illustrate: If someone doesn't believe that Sweden exists, how many people do you do you think they believe took a holiday there last year?


JW

Don't understand your response. What does Sweden have to with hell? Are you saying that Sweden is hell?

[Donray]

Question, what happens to all the people that died and knew nothing about Jesus? This is millions of people born before 800 BC. Jews had multiple gods before then.

What about the people that currently know nothing about Jesus?

Does God send all these to hell?

There is nobody in all of history that does not know about Jesus and who has not either put their faith in Him or put their faith in Him being a liar so that none have an excuse. Romans 1:20 For since / from the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. "God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen," means they have been clearly proven.

All folks who claim to never have heard of Him nor seen the proof have repressed their memories of the proof due to their love for sin more than their love for truth as the rest of Rom 1 explains in pretty straight forward terms.

Please explain how people that lived in America in the lets say 15 century BC knew about Jesus?

Explain how the Greeks that lived in the 10th century BC knew about Jesus?

If Jesus existed, he did not exist before 0 BC so you need to explain how they know, Are you just making things up?

[Donray]

"God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen," means they have been clearly proven.

No they have not, Could you provide your proof that they have been clearly proven to the Greeks in the 190 century BC? Bet you cannot.

Explain how the Neanderthals knew? Bet you cannot.

What about early humans that lived 100,000 years ago. How did they know?

Please try to be logical about it and unless you know the bible existed back then don't use it.

[ttruscott]

Question, what happens to all the people that died and knew nothing about Jesus? This is millions of people born before 800 BC. Jews had multiple gods before then.

What about the people that currently know nothing about Jesus?

Does God send all these to hell?

There is nobody in all of history that does not know about Jesus and who has not either put their faith in Him or put their faith in Him being a liar so that none have an excuse. Romans 1:20 For since / from the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. "God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen," means they have been clearly proven.

All folks who claim to never have heard of Him nor seen the proof have repressed their memories of the proof due to their love for sin more than their love for truth as the rest of Rom 1 explains in pretty straight forward terms.

Please explain how people that lived in America in the lets say 15 century BC knew about Jesus?

Explain how the Greeks that lived in the 10th century BC knew about Jesus?

If Jesus existed, he did not exist before 0 BC so you need to explain how they know, Are you just making things up?

Christian topics new to you, eh? I and most of the Christian world view Christ as an eternal member of the GODLY UNITY, always existing. John 1 says He was the one who actually created all of reality.

Now, this verse: Colossians 1:23 ...if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant. The gospel that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven includes all of humans ever created from the beginning of creation to the end, so you have no need to worry for them. Everyone in all time has heard the facts of the good news that though we are sinners, we can be saved by HIS grace through faith. AS for HOW did they hear, I contend for a theology based upon our having been created first as spirits before any part of the physical universe was created. As spirits we were created innocent with a free will with an equal ability and opportunity to choose to be perfect in HIS opinion, conforming to HIS holiness, OR we could choose to reject HIM and HIS plans for us and become eternally evil, needing to be banished from HIS reality.

HE separated everyone into two groups, those who trusted HE was telling the truth about being GOD and who wanted to live in heaven with HIM and those who thought HE was a false god and a liar. HE did this by asking us to put our faith in HIM and HIS claims and choosing which we wanted for our happiness the most, life with HIM or not. At this same time HE offered a promise to anywho would put their faith in HIM that once they chose to bow to HIM HE would elect/choose them to be HIS bride in heaven and if they should ever sin, they would be saved from any and every sin by HIS Son, the Christ.

In this way, every person in all of creation heard the gospel and so knew Christ and His promise. After the choosing was done GOD created the physical universe and all sinners were sent to earth "to live together" as the parable says. Humans have no memory of their life in Sheol because as Romans 1 says rather repeatedly, our minds were clouded by sin and we repressed the proof of HIS Deity because we loved sin more than the truth.