Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.

[99percentatheism]

There is no secular or theological challenge to be made that a "Christian marriage" isn't immutably a man and woman/husband and wife. Therefore, it should be a criminal act under current hate crimes laws, to accuse a Christian of hate, bigotry, or irrational . . ., if they assert the immutability of the structure of marriage as man and woman/husband and wife.

As Jesus proclaimed it in the Gospels and the writings reaffirm and define it so.

Why would anyone, religious or secularist, NOT support and affirm Christians adhering to the consistent and immutable Biblical teaching that a marriage is a man/husband and woman/wife?

[Danmark]

There are two that I can think of.
Jesus said, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I am not without sin. I am not a judge, and I am not justified in stoning anyone to death.

Only up until the point when stoning someone to death is a breech of civil law.

By both standards, I cannot be justified in stoning anyone to death. By both standards killing anyone to death is not acceptable, unless perhaps your [sic] living in the middle east.

Now you are contradicting yourself. You wrote:
I fully admit that I believe that adulterers do deserve to be stoned to death.

Then you compared yourself to God: I also admitted that I am not obliged to give to everyone that which they deserve. I am free to have mercy on whomever I choose to have mercy on.

YOU have made this discussion personal by talking about your personal beliefs about people who deserve to die for what you consider transgressions of your moral code, as opposed to the civil code.

[10CC]

[Replying to post 1087 by Sonofason]

Only up until the point when stoning someone to death is a breech of civil law.

Are you saying that civil law trumps god given objective morality?

[Sonofason]

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

You're way off here, in at least a couple of ways. First it is wrong to take an example used in an argument, and treat it as a literal threat. It's even worse to use that to justify making a direct threat to another, because you have chosen to be offended when no offense was intended.

The point that was made is simply that those who would be subjected to your extremist view of stoning adulterers to death may be our own children, since according to the Bible, 'All have sinned.' More importantly, at least from a Christian perspective, is that Jesus taught exactly the opposite of what you are preaching, and did so regarding this very law.

I don't care who you are, nor where you are, nor why you are. None of you have any business anywhere making any reference whatsoever to my children. I do not care if any threat is intended or not. If you want to draw such an analogy then use your own children. My children are not a topic for discussion. And you won't discuss them, and 10CC won't discuss them any further.

No one is discussing your children. We are discussing your belief, which you attribute to Christianity, that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for adultery, despite the fact Jesus said the opposite.

Do you consider the death penalty appropriate for the sin of wearing a wool/cotton blend? How about for liars? Should cowards be put to death? Magicians? Idol worshippers? How about simply not believing what you believe. Should 'unbelievers' be put to death?

How about those who issue orders without authority?

You, Divine Insight, and 10CC are all misrepresenting what I have said, and I am quite frustrated that you will not see it and admit it.

I never said that the death penalty is appropriate for any crime. What I said was that adulterers deserve to be stoned to death. What I said was, that I am not worthy to give people what they deserve. What I said was I would never harm anyone, even if they deserve to be harmed. But you continue to misconstrue what I say, as you always do. I don't blame you. When you don't have an argument, what do you have left, other than attempt to slander your opponent.

[Sonofason]

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

You're way off here, in at least a couple of ways. First it is wrong to take an example used in an argument, and treat it as a literal threat. It's even worse to use that to justify making a direct threat to another, because you have chosen to be offended when no offense was intended.

The point that was made is simply that those who would be subjected to your extremist view of stoning adulterers to death may be our own children, since according to the Bible, 'All have sinned.' More importantly, at least from a Christian perspective, is that Jesus taught exactly the opposite of what you are preaching, and did so regarding this very law.

I don't care who you are, nor where you are, nor why you are. None of you have any business anywhere making any reference whatsoever to my children. I do not care if any threat is intended or not. If you want to draw such an analogy then use your own children. My children are not a topic for discussion. And you won't discuss them, and 10CC won't discuss them any further.

No one is discussing your children. We are discussing your belief, which you attribute to Christianity, that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for adultery, despite the fact Jesus said the opposite.

Do you consider the death penalty appropriate for the sin of wearing a wool/cotton blend? How about for liars? Should cowards be put to death? Magicians? Idol worshippers? How about simply not believing what you believe. Should 'unbelievers' be put to death?

How about those who issue orders without authority?

First, Jesus never said that the death penalty was not an appropriate punishment for the sin of adultery. In fact He admitted that it was an appropriate punishment, in that he prompted the crowd, that if there should be anyone among them who was not guilty of sin, that they should be the first, to throw the first stone. He didn't say, now I don't want anyone throwing any more stones. He said, if you are worthy of prescribing such a worthy punishment upon someone, then do it. The problem is that no one is. And so therefore, no one ought to be throwing any stones.

I do not recommend stoning anyone to death. I don't recommend stoning rapists and murderers to death. I wouldn't recommend stoning Hitler to death if he were still alive. You are missing the point. You are missing the point. You are entirely missing the point.

You and I deserve the punishment of eternal death. We deserve it. We deserve to die. You don't see that. I do.

"But God so loved the world..."

You all think you're so wonderful because you are capable of forgiveness and mercy. You've even come to believe that people somehow deserve forgiveness and mercy, that you deserve forgiveness and mercy, but we don't. And then you deny God the opportunity to forgive you.

[10CC]

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

You're way off here, in at least a couple of ways. First it is wrong to take an example used in an argument, and treat it as a literal threat. It's even worse to use that to justify making a direct threat to another, because you have chosen to be offended when no offense was intended.

The point that was made is simply that those who would be subjected to your extremist view of stoning adulterers to death may be our own children, since according to the Bible, 'All have sinned.' More importantly, at least from a Christian perspective, is that Jesus taught exactly the opposite of what you are preaching, and did so regarding this very law.

I don't care who you are, nor where you are, nor why you are. None of you have any business anywhere making any reference whatsoever to my children. I do not care if any threat is intended or not. If you want to draw such an analogy then use your own children. My children are not a topic for discussion. And you won't discuss them, and 10CC won't discuss them any further.

No one is discussing your children. We are discussing your belief, which you attribute to Christianity, that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for adultery, despite the fact Jesus said the opposite.

Do you consider the death penalty appropriate for the sin of wearing a wool/cotton blend? How about for liars? Should cowards be put to death? Magicians? Idol worshippers? How about simply not believing what you believe. Should 'unbelievers' be put to death?

How about those who issue orders without authority?

First, Jesus never said that the death penalty was not an appropriate punishment for the sin of adultery. In fact He admitted that it was an appropriate punishment, in that he prompted the crowd, that if there should be anyone among them who was not guilty of sin, that they should be the first, to throw the first stone. He didn't say, now I don't want anyone throwing any more stones. He said, if you are worthy of prescribing such a worthy punishment upon someone, then do it. The problem is that no one is. And so therefore, no one ought to be throwing any stones.

I do not recommend stoning anyone to death. I don't recommend stoning rapists and murderers to death. I wouldn't recommend stoning Hitler to death if he were still alive. You are missing the point. You are missing the point. You are entirely missing the point.

You and I deserve the punishment of eternal death. We deserve it. We deserve to die. You don't see that. I do.

"But God so loved the world..."

You all think you're so wonderful because you are capable of forgiveness and mercy. You've even come to believe that people somehow deserve forgiveness and mercy, that you deserve forgiveness and mercy, but we don't. And then you deny God the opportunity to forgive you.

Do I deserve to die because I don't care what fabrics I wear?

Do I deserve to die because I eat shellfish?

Do I deserve to die because I refuse to stone my children to death?

Or do I deserve to die simply because I am totally evil?

I'm going to die, but not for any of those reasons. I'm going to die because that is life and I happen to be alive. I accept that and I don't need a fairytale afterlife ending to make my life worthwhile.

My life is fulfilling and then I'm going to die, it doesn't frighten, upset, disappoint or dismay me. I'm happy having had this life.

[KCKID]

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

You're way off here, in at least a couple of ways. First it is wrong to take an example used in an argument, and treat it as a literal threat. It's even worse to use that to justify making a direct threat to another, because you have chosen to be offended when no offense was intended.

The point that was made is simply that those who would be subjected to your extremist view of stoning adulterers to death may be our own children, since according to the Bible, 'All have sinned.' More importantly, at least from a Christian perspective, is that Jesus taught exactly the opposite of what you are preaching, and did so regarding this very law.

I don't care who you are, nor where you are, nor why you are. None of you have any business anywhere making any reference whatsoever to my children. I do not care if any threat is intended or not. If you want to draw such an analogy then use your own children. My children are not a topic for discussion. And you won't discuss them, and 10CC won't discuss them any further.

No one is discussing your children. We are discussing your belief, which you attribute to Christianity, that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for adultery, despite the fact Jesus said the opposite.

Do you consider the death penalty appropriate for the sin of wearing a wool/cotton blend? How about for liars? Should cowards be put to death? Magicians? Idol worshippers? How about simply not believing what you believe. Should 'unbelievers' be put to death?

How about those who issue orders without authority?

You, Divine Insight, and 10CC are all misrepresenting what I have said, and I am quite frustrated that you will not see it and admit it.

I never said that the death penalty is appropriate for any crime. What I said was that adulterers deserve to be stoned to death. What I said was, that I am not worthy to give people what they deserve. What I said was I would never harm anyone, even if they deserve to be harmed. But you continue to misconstrue what I say, as you always do. I don't blame you. When you don't have an argument, what do you have left, other than attempt to slander your opponent.

I'm sure that most everyone here knows what you are saying; however, it's those barbaric commands of God that you're evidently okay with that is the present issue. It would be puzzling to many as to why you and others don't appear to question - as they do - how this supposed loving God would command such wicked things of people. Killing someone, AND often for very minor infringements, simply goes against the grain of any decent person whether it be God giving the instructions or not. And yet, you would (as you've already indicated) want to string up anyone other than God if they even hinted at harming your kids. What you don't seem to understand is that everyone here is on your side in that THEY object to God commanding that harm be done to your kids. But, strangely, you don't appear to mind just as long as it happens to be God doing the commanding. It's extremely difficult for many people to make any sense of that.

[99percentatheism]

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

You're way off here, in at least a couple of ways. First it is wrong to take an example used in an argument, and treat it as a literal threat. It's even worse to use that to justify making a direct threat to another, because you have chosen to be offended when no offense was intended.

The point that was made is simply that those who would be subjected to your extremist view of stoning adulterers to death may be our own children, since according to the Bible, 'All have sinned.' More importantly, at least from a Christian perspective, is that Jesus taught exactly the opposite of what you are preaching, and did so regarding this very law.

I don't care who you are, nor where you are, nor why you are. None of you have any business anywhere making any reference whatsoever to my children. I do not care if any threat is intended or not. If you want to draw such an analogy then use your own children. My children are not a topic for discussion. And you won't discuss them, and 10CC won't discuss them any further.

No one is discussing your children. We are discussing your belief, which you attribute to Christianity, that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for adultery, despite the fact Jesus said the opposite.

Do you consider the death penalty appropriate for the sin of wearing a wool/cotton blend? How about for liars? Should cowards be put to death? Magicians? Idol worshippers? How about simply not believing what you believe. Should 'unbelievers' be put to death?

How about those who issue orders without authority?

You, Divine Insight, and 10CC are all misrepresenting what I have said, and I am quite frustrated that you will not see it and admit it.

I never said that the death penalty is appropriate for any crime. What I said was that adulterers deserve to be stoned to death. What I said was, that I am not worthy to give people what they deserve. What I said was I would never harm anyone, even if they deserve to be harmed. But you continue to misconstrue what I say, as you always do. I don't blame you. When you don't have an argument, what do you have left, other than attempt to slander your opponent.

It is what is known as spin. They know what they are doing and why. Just ignore the propaganda tactics and move on. In this thread, the anti-Christian position is shown for what it is. There is no way to justify an oppositional stance to the immutability of Christian marriage as man and woman. So you have classic spin and subterfuge, blame and accusation of the common political ploy.

Just chuckle to yourself and keep to the reality that Jesus knew His followers would face being hated for the truth. The world and its ways haven't changed since the garden of Eden.

[99percentatheism]

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

You're way off here, in at least a couple of ways. First it is wrong to take an example used in an argument, and treat it as a literal threat. It's even worse to use that to justify making a direct threat to another, because you have chosen to be offended when no offense was intended.

The point that was made is simply that those who would be subjected to your extremist view of stoning adulterers to death may be our own children, since according to the Bible, 'All have sinned.' More importantly, at least from a Christian perspective, is that Jesus taught exactly the opposite of what you are preaching, and did so regarding this very law.

I don't care who you are, nor where you are, nor why you are. None of you have any business anywhere making any reference whatsoever to my children. I do not care if any threat is intended or not. If you want to draw such an analogy then use your own children. My children are not a topic for discussion. And you won't discuss them, and 10CC won't discuss them any further.

No one is discussing your children. We are discussing your belief, which you attribute to Christianity, that the death penalty is an appropriate punishment for adultery, despite the fact Jesus said the opposite.

Do you consider the death penalty appropriate for the sin of wearing a wool/cotton blend? How about for liars? Should cowards be put to death? Magicians? Idol worshippers? How about simply not believing what you believe. Should 'unbelievers' be put to death?

How about those who issue orders without authority?

First, Jesus never said that the death penalty was not an appropriate punishment for the sin of adultery. In fact He admitted that it was an appropriate punishment, in that he prompted the crowd, that if there should be anyone among them who was not guilty of sin, that they should be the first, to throw the first stone. He didn't say, now I don't want anyone throwing any more stones. He said, if you are worthy of prescribing such a worthy punishment upon someone, then do it. The problem is that no one is. And so therefore, no one ought to be throwing any stones.

I do not recommend stoning anyone to death. I don't recommend stoning rapists and murderers to death. I wouldn't recommend stoning Hitler to death if he were still alive. You are missing the point. You are missing the point. You are entirely missing the point.

You and I deserve the punishment of eternal death. We deserve it. We deserve to die. You don't see that. I do.

"But God so loved the world..."

You all think you're so wonderful because you are capable of forgiveness and mercy. You've even come to believe that people somehow deserve forgiveness and mercy, that you deserve forgiveness and mercy, but we don't. And then you deny God the opportunity to forgive you.

Do I deserve to die because I don't care what fabrics I wear?

Do I deserve to die because I eat shellfish?

Do I deserve to die because I refuse to stone my children to death?

Or do I deserve to die simply because I am totally evil?

I'm going to die, but not for any of those reasons. I'm going to die because that is life and I happen to be alive. I accept that and I don't need a fairytale afterlife ending to make my life worthwhile.

My life is fulfilling and then I'm going to die, it doesn't frighten, upset, disappoint or dismay me. I'm happy having had this life.

Since you are attacking Torah pronouncements, and "Jews" brought us the Torah a question needs to be asked: Are you an anti Semite? Are those that rail against the pronouncements of "Israel's God? all rightly qualify as anti-Semites?

It is rather simple to just say "I don't believe in Israel's God and what this God supposedly said" and move on. Obvioulsy, Jews to this day consider their God and their religion exceptionally loving.

Isn't it anti-Semitic to attack them?

[99percentatheism]

Surely, the woman deserved death

Justify this obscenity.

“If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel."
(Deuteronomy 22:22)

NO! I said justify the obscenity not supply the obscene passage that supports it.

Justify it.

I'm sorry, I cannot justify the obscenity of adultery.

You know it should really give you pause for thought when in every thread you find yourself in a position of being unable to answer questions, of needing continually to change the subject, of having to evade and equivocate constantly.

Doesn't any of that tell you something is wrong on your side of the fence?

You should read on. I didn't answer the question here, but I did answer it elsewhere. I fully admit that I believe that adulterers do deserve to be stoned to death. I also admitted that I am not obliged to give to everyone that which they deserve. I am free to have mercy on whomever I choose to have mercy on.

I hope that you will be stoning your children to death at the next sign they show of their humanity. That is after all what your god commands you to do.

Murder is in fact a sign of humanity. Many human beings kill and murder other human beings. But I am quite surprised that you would bring up my children, and try to invoke me to stone them to death. Is that right?

I cannot keep saying it just because you don't hear what I've said. I'm not going to play this little childish game with you. You have now assaulted my family, and I am not going to tell you what sort of emotion that instills in me. But I can tell you this, I'd love to meet you one day. We could see how our opinions change about others when we meet them face to face. I could maybe get tossed of this site for this comment of mine, but I really don't care. It would not be my loss. It would be yours. Keep talking about my kids. I'll find you, and we can discuss face to face what people deserve.

Stoning disobedient children has nothing to do with 10CC OR Danmark. The below is what the biblical God commands:

Deuteronomy 21:18-21:- "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death."

Surely you must have known about that scripture without having had to take it out personally on 10CC and make threats . . .? Shouldn't your ire instead be aimed at the one you kowtow to? How come you're not mad at God? Obviously fear of God as you mentioned in a previous post. Incidentally, in what context would "kill your disobedient children with stones" ever be acceptable?

Are you an anti-Semite? You appear to be critical of of Israel's God. "Jews" brought us this religion and the pronouncements of their God.

Are you an anti-Semite by denigrating their religion, their God?

[99percentatheism]

KCKID
[Replying to post 1043 by 99percentatheism]

99percent, of those 'gay marrieds' that choose to belong to a Christian Church ...what IS this 'sin' that you keep referring to? Please be specific because you're being far too broad here as well as presenting scriptures that are also as broad and don't appear to relate to this particular topic. You should be able to articulate your particular 'problem' with gay marrieds in one sentence if you choose to do so. So, would you do so without all of the additional drama, hysteria and padding?

Please respond to the following:
1. What precisely is it that gay people are doing in the Church that is causing such a threat to your Church . . .?
2. What does what you imagine a homosexual couple might be doing in their bedroom have to do with their effectiveness as a Christian?
3. What does what you imagine a heterosexual couple doing in their bedroom make them more effective Christians than the gay couple?
4. Should not what gay or straight couples might be doing in their bedrooms be off-limits to the Church?

If you need to search through the Bible to find some ambiguous scriptures that have nothing to do with the topic ...please, just tell me that you can't answer the questions in your own words. I'll understand ...really I will . . .

Ply your subterfuge on someone else. It is your lack of the ability to use scripture in any way to celebrate gay activism that is on display here. You will never be able to use scripture to support the gay agenda and that is why you want the use of scripture disqualified.

And it is clear why.

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all.

Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

Am I now trying to win the approval of human beings, or of God? Or am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a servant of Christ.

- Galations 1

Since you choose to refuse to actually answer any of my positions, all I can assume is that you have no answer to orthodoxy other than tricks or of course insults and political neologisms.

All you have to do is to invent another religion and have at your gay agenda all you want. It's a bit unsettling, the demand that gay activism and LGBT political demands be superior to the Christian orthodoxy. Honest Christians desire to follow orthodox truth in honest Christian Churches that see the incompatible nature of LGBT social demands isn't a bad thing. In fact it is just honesty.

But alas, Christians have been through this all before and should realize that there is nothing new under the sun:

. . . I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.

- Jude

I asked 4 SPECIFIC questions of 99percentatheism. I asked him to answer the questions in his own words without the usual dramatics, the unnecessary padding and without the use of ambiguous scriptures that have little or nothing to do with the topic. You will notice, dear reader, that he was unable to do so. Since I'm a fair person I'll give him another chance.

1. What precisely is it that gay people are doing in the Church that is causing such a threat to your Church . . .?
2. What does what you imagine a homosexual couple might be doing in their bedroom have to do with their effectiveness as a Christian?
3. What does what you imagine a heterosexual couple doing in their bedroom make them more effective Christians than the gay couple?
4. Should not what gay or straight couples might be doing in their bedrooms be off-limits to the Church?

Other than derailing this thread, which is a classic ploy of the side that is losing, I'd like to all of the anti-Semitic rhetoric to cease in a thread I invented.

Here's what THIS thread is about. Either answer the OP or admit defeat. And of course, for your own satisfaction, start your own thread;

Lest we forget, here is the OP for this thread:

There is no secular or theological challenge to be made that a "Christian marriage" isn't immutably a man and woman/husband and wife. Therefore, it should be a criminal act under current hate crimes laws, to accuse a Christian of hate, bigotry, or irrational . . ., if they assert the immutability of the structure of marriage as man and woman/husband and wife.

As Jesus proclaimed it in the Gospels and the writings reaffirm and define it so.

Why would anyone, religious or secularist, NOT support and affirm Christians adhering to the consistent and immutable Biblical teaching that a marriage is a man/husband and woman/wife?

And of course the only answer to which is a centuries upon centuries consistent and resounding: YES Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.

For there is no other definition.

Let's move away from anti-Semtic rhetoric and worthless accusations and the common spin of political correctness . . . and RE-focus on the truth of what a Christian marriage is.

Hopefully no one has a problem with truth.