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Noah's Ark Replica

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Johan's Ark: Noah's Ark Replica Crashes Into Moored Norwegian Coast Guard Vessel, Officials Say
The crash occurred in Oslo, Norway, Friday. A military patrol boat and the 230-foot long replica created by Dutch carpenter Johan Huibers, who reportedly used the Bible's measurements, were damaged.


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Two of every species of animal in the entire world and all of the food necessary to feed and maintain them all for months was going to fit into that? REALLY?

Does anyone foresee any problems here?
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[Replying to post 9 by Zzyzx]
Is this to suggest that the world was significantly different in Noah's day?

If so, kindly supply supporting verifiable evidence that significant differences were present.

The real world of today contains millions of species. If someone wishes to claim that there were less at a specific time in the past, they are asked to supply supporting evidence.
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I didn't claim to know how the world in Noah's day was.
If you say I did, show me.
Since the word dinosaur did not show up in the English language until a couple centuries ago, HOW could the Bible contain the word? Some scholars and theologians suggest that the word translated as dragon (multiple mentions) and other terms were used in bible stories to mean what is now referred to as dinosaur. That, however, is speculation.
Thank you.
'Cause I didn't see any dragon mentioned in the Genesis account.
According to anthropologists, people who study such things, humans did not come along until millions of years after dinosaurs became extinct.

In other words, there were no humans 65 or so million years ago
Thank you again.
That would make sense to me.
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[Replying to post 1 by Tired of the Nonsense]

Here's a fun article to chew on. Four physics graduate students crunched the numbers and even published a paper.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n ... 85/?no-ist

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theStudent wrote: Which world?
The one in your mind, or the one in Noah's day?
Because the Bible does not say how many species existed in Noah's day.
Neither does it mention any dinosaur.

And are you disagreeing with you scientists who speculate that their dinosaur were wiped out by a meteorite?
If their claim is true, how could you expect man to survive?
So according to their theory, man couldn't have existed with the dinosaur.
Therefore, according to their theory - no dinosaurs in Noah's day.
According to creation science, and the various creation science museums, humans and dinosaurs existed side by side just a few thousand years ago. So for those who believe that the Flintstones is a documentary and an accurate account of ancient history, then of course Noah would have had to make room for dinosaurs on his Ark. Anyone who actually understands the natural record of course, knows that humans and dinosaurs missed each other by 60 million years or so. But then anyone who truly believes that Noah and family ACTUALLY collected a mating pair of EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL ON EARTH, and contained them all in a wooden boat, isn't going to be dissuaded by the natural record or anything resembling reason.


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The dinosaurs were already in decline by the time the great K"Pg extinction occurred. Many species of plants and animals went extinct for many reasons, mainly having to do with environmental changes that were already in process. The asteroid that struck the Yucatan region simply pushed things along.
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From the OP:
Two of every species of animal in the entire world and all of the food necessary to feed and maintain them all for months was going to fit into that? REALLY?
We must remember here the term "kind", in relation to "them kind we could fit on it, and them kind we couldn't".
Does anyone foresee any problems here?
The logistical nightmare of fixin' biscuits enough for seven times forty, when there's only the two pigs on board to make up the sausage, and both of 'em hafta disembark at port Ararat. How's that one hen gonna lay her seven eggs every day, for forty straight of 'em? Without that rooster gettin' suspicious?

Naw, you can't just make biscuits out of thin air, or Jesus woulda done it.

(Edit to remove an errant 'of', but don't it beat all, there was two of 'em)
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It's true that the unicorns got left out. But that was their own fault.



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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
theStudent wrote: Which world?
The one in your mind, or the one in Noah's day?
Because the Bible does not say how many species existed in Noah's day.
Neither does it mention any dinosaur.

And are you disagreeing with you scientists who speculate that their dinosaur were wiped out by a meteorite?
If their claim is true, how could you expect man to survive?
So according to their theory, man couldn't have existed with the dinosaur.
Therefore, according to their theory - no dinosaurs in Noah's day.
According to creation science, and the various creation science museums, humans and dinosaurs existed side by side just a few thousand years ago. So for those who believe that the Flintstones is a documentary and an accurate account of ancient history, then of course Noah would have had to make room for dinosaurs on his Ark. Anyone who actually understands the natural record of course, knows that humans and dinosaurs missed each other by 60 million years or so. But then anyone who truly believes that Noah and family ACTUALLY collected a mating pair of EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL ON EARTH, and contained them all in a wooden boat, isn't going to be dissuaded by the natural record or anything resembling reason.


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The dinosaurs were already in decline by the time the great K"Pg extinction occurred. Many species of plants and animals went extinct for many reasons, mainly having to do with environmental changes that were already in process. The asteroid that struck the Yucatan region simply pushed things along.
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You can go on ahead, and agree with that mythology, and philosophy.
You already said you don't believe the Bible stories.

Still you are trying to mix myth with a Bible account.
Is that an intentional effort to discredit the Bible?
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[Replying to post 1 by Tired of the Nonsense]

I foresee a problem with fundamentalist Christians who are not educated in Ancient Near Eastern literature and genres.

I foresee another problem in skeptics who think fundamentalists represent Christianity.

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theStudent wrote:
Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
theStudent wrote: Which world?
The one in your mind, or the one in Noah's day?
Because the Bible does not say how many species existed in Noah's day.
Neither does it mention any dinosaur.

And are you disagreeing with you scientists who speculate that their dinosaur were wiped out by a meteorite?
If their claim is true, how could you expect man to survive?
So according to their theory, man couldn't have existed with the dinosaur.
Therefore, according to their theory - no dinosaurs in Noah's day.
According to creation science, and the various creation science museums, humans and dinosaurs existed side by side just a few thousand years ago. So for those who believe that the Flintstones is a documentary and an accurate account of ancient history, then of course Noah would have had to make room for dinosaurs on his Ark. Anyone who actually understands the natural record of course, knows that humans and dinosaurs missed each other by 60 million years or so. But then anyone who truly believes that Noah and family ACTUALLY collected a mating pair of EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL ON EARTH, and contained them all in a wooden boat, isn't going to be dissuaded by the natural record or anything resembling reason.


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The dinosaurs were already in decline by the time the great K"Pg extinction occurred. Many species of plants and animals went extinct for many reasons, mainly having to do with environmental changes that were already in process. The asteroid that struck the Yucatan region simply pushed things along.
Demonbaby.com :?:
You can go on ahead, and agree with that mythology, and philosophy.
You already said you don't believe the Bible stories.

Still you are trying to mix myth with a Bible account.
Is that an intentional effort to discredit the Bible?
There is no particular need for me to seek to discredit the Bible. I simply have to quote the Bible. The Bible was written by ancient superstitious people, and it reads like something written by ancient superstitious people.
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From Post 16:
TheStudent wrote: ...
Still you are trying to mix myth with a Bible account.
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If only for me, I'm tryin' tell which parts of it is, and which parts ain't.

Do you contend the bible has no myth? Or a big bunch of it?

If so, where is which?

Do you contend it's a literal account?
TheStudent wrote: Is that an intentional effort to discredit the Bible?
On that'n there, I ask you about this'n. I note our OP doesn't ask if folks was a-lyin', it just asks if there was enough space for all them critters to lay.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote: [Replying to JoeyKnothead]

It's true that the unicorns got left out. But that was their own fault.



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Job 39:
[10] Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?
Evidence indicates they was either high-falootin', or delicious.
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