Easyrider wrote:Confused wrote:
The fact that Christians claim Jesus was the Messiah and fullfilled the Jewish requirements as such is also not unique as have been pointed out already. So a saviour is hardly a unique concept.
You find me anybody like Jesus Christ who is God and the Jewish Messiah, and who healed the sick, raised the dead, calmed the storm, forgave sins, and arose bodily at his resurrection and then I'll buy your argument. There's no one like Christ in history.
I can do no other than oblige. From the following website:
http://www.gardinersworld.com/content/view/164/45/
1) Horus
It’s now time to shift angle slightly and look sideways at India’s close cultural and historical neighbour – Egypt. Many people fail to realise that as Egypt was once a great and powerful Empire, so too was India and both shared similar time-scales for their growths.
In the myths of the Egyptian deity, Horus, we have starkly given to us the real reason behind the use of the Uraeus snake symbol by the Pharaohs. Horus is said to have recovered the eye of Osiris, his father, and to have placed over the wound the divine serpent Uraeus in-order to cure him. In fact his father then made Horus king of Egypt.
There are parallels here with Jesus in that he too healed the eye, but this time it was with clay. However, he spat into the clay, and it was this act, the "spit" of the serpent king, which cured the eye. Jesus then went on to become king like Horus. He was paired with Set, as Jesus was with John the Baptist or against Satan (Set) and he even had Set decapitated as John is beheaded.
Set later returned, taking the form of a serpent. Horus was crucified between two thieves and then resurrected, just like Christ. His earthly father was known as Seb, which is the same as Joseph. He walked on water, delivered a ‘Sermon on the Mount’ and was said to reign for 1,000 years. So, if Horus is the Egyptian equivalent of Jesus then what does it tell us about Jesus? And furthermore, what does it tell us about the Grail?
Well, in the 1st dynasty of Egypt there was a king called Djer. He was the third king and he had a son named Djet, although evidence of this relationship is sketchy. Djet was also known as Wadjit the uraeus snake. Djet’s tomb is at Abydos in a location known as Umm el-Ga’ab.
First excavated by Flinders Petrie it was later redone by Kaiser and Dreyer in 1988. There were steles found at the sight indicating the early names of this enigmatic pharaoh. It was a snake with a falcon above and a palace below the snake. Simply, this inscription means "Horus the snake." Remembering that this is one of the Pharaohs from the 1st dynasty then we have here an indication that very early on in Egyptian history the god Horus was seen in relation with the healing snake.
If Christ is seen as Horus, then he too is associated with the ‘healing snake,’ and no wonder that the early Christians called him the "good serpent." But there is yet a more revealing element of the names given to Jesus, which in the light of this new outlook is most revealing. Jesus is called the carpenter, but what is the root of this word and why was it used for a man that plainly did not have the inclination or time to sit and carve out wood?
The word carpenter contemporaneously was ‘naggar’ meaning wise man and serpent. Mark 6:3 "Is not this the carpenter?" now reads "Is not this the serpent?" The blood that therefore flowed from Jesus into the Grail, and the spit that came from his mouth to heal the eye, were elements of the snake.
2) Zoroaster
Supposedly born around 1,500 BC or 660 BC (depends upon whom you believe) in Iran, there is evidence that this saviour-style figure or title had actually been in existence for at least 10000 years. According to some historians there have been up to seven different Zoroasters over time, making him not a single person but an ancient god humanised.
His teachings are to be found in the Avesta and Gathas. Zoroastrianism did not really take off until around the 6th century BC and lasted until it was taken over by Islam in the 7th century AD, although there are still some who cling on even today. These Zoroastrians are believed to have been the wise men or Magi of the Christian Bible, who brought gifts to Jesus at his birth, as a born god. If these Magi saw their gods as serpents, then there is little wonder that they should see and be associated with this serpent saviour born in human form.
According to Eusebius in the ritual of Zoroaster the great expanse of the heavens and nature were described under the symbol of the serpent (Ophiolatreia, Hargrave Jennings). This was doubly mentioned in the Octateuch of Ostanes and even to the point that Temples were erected across Persia and the east in veneration of the serpent deity. The serpents were esteemed the "supreme of all Gods and the superintendents of the whole world." The worship is said to have begun yet again in Chaldea. That the city of Opis (Op = serpent) was built on the Tigris is a testament to this fact.
Zoroaster in essence is a god-man archetype like Osiris. We can see this element of him when we run through some of the similarities between Zoroaster and Christ.
Zoroaster was born of a virgin via the immaculate conception.
He was baptised in a river and tempted in the wilderness.
He began his ministry at thirty (30 degrees is the measurement between the Zodiacal signs).
He baptised with water, fire and "holy wind" (ghost). It was said that one would follow who would baptise with the Holy Ghost.
He was "the word made flesh."
He revealed secrets of heaven and hell – the resurrection, salvation, judgement and apocalypse.
He was slain and his followers had their own Eucharist.
He even had a sacred Grail or Chalice!
3) Messiah (Comparisons)
So there are many similarities between the various "messiahs" that the world has known and it is my view that they all emanate from one original and serpent cult source. We have seen above some groundwork from the realm of Hindu and Buddhist belief. We can see the beginnings and origins even of some of the more peculiar and even profound things we find in our Christian Messiah in the West. Let’s just take a look at some comparisons now and see what sticks out like a sore thumb!
Buddha was born of the virgin Maya who was known as the ‘Queen of Heaven’ on December 25th.
Jesus was born of the Virgin Mary, also known as the ‘Queen of Heaven,’ on December 25th in a cave or manger.
Horus was born of the virgin Isis-Meri on December 25th. Isis-Meri is also known as Mata-Meri or Mother Mary.
Mithra was born to a virgin on December 25th and in a cave or manger; also announced by a star and three wise men.
Chrishna was born of the virgin, Devaki (shining one). This goddess or ‘Queen of Heaven’ is known as Isis, Astarte, Asherah, Marratu, Marah, Mariham. In fact the Semites knew her as Mari-El or Mary God or indeed shining Mary.
Chrishna’s most beloved disciple was known as Arjuna or Ar-jouan (John.)
In Egyptian myth, Anup or Aan (John) the Baptiser also baptised Horus, and in Christian myth John baptised Jesus. Both Anup and John the Baptist were decapitated.
Buddha performed miracles and healed the sick, as did most of the others. Horus had twelve disciples like Christ and Mithra. Buddha was transfigured on a mountain like Christ and Horus. They all ascended into heaven.
Buddha was sacrificed for three days and was then resurrected like Jesus.
Horus was crucified, buried in a tomb and then resurrected.
Mithra was buried in a tomb and then resurrected three days later.
Chrishna was crucified between two thieves on a tree, then rose from the dead and ascended to heaven – as did Prometheus.
The idea of being resurrected after three days has strong links to astronomy. The stone monuments of the world are also linked to astronomy and the serpent. The 12 disciples are the 12 zodiac signs and months and of course, the snake, seen as the Ouroboros is in control of the signs – just like Christ, who controls and guides the disciples. But the snake is seen, not just in control of the stars, but also as the sun and the moon – basically, the serpent is seen as the most powerful of the cosmic entities.
In December the sun makes a descent southward until 21st or 22nd December, which is then termed the ‘Winter Solstice.’ It stops then for three days and begins to move back again northwards – it is resurrected. As the serpent and the sun are linked together in symbolism of new and regenerative power then there is no surprise to find this correlation.
Being born of a virgin implies the knowledge that the calendar began whilst in the constellation of Virgo. As the sun, the various messiahs are the "sun" of god and are the "light of the world." The Hindi word "Kris" actually means sun and it is from this root that the word Chrishna and Christ are derived. In fact Chrishna was known as "Jezeus" or "pure essence" and centuries before Jesus Christ.
The sun has a corona or horned crown, like the horns and the crown of thorns of Jesus and Chrishna. Most of these remarkable and ritualistic "sons of god" are come of age at 30 and there is no surprise to find that the sun enters into each zodiacal sign at 30 degrees.
Even the language barrier is overcome when we find that Buddha was considered the good shepherd, carpenter, saviour and light of the world. Horus was known as "the way, the truth and the light" – again, like Jesus.
Also as God’s anointed, "the messiah," the "lamb of god," "the word," "the good shepherd," "the fisher," "the son of god" – Horus was also known as the "KRST" or Christ. (There are in fact many depictions of Horus at his virginal mother’s breast, looking exactly like Jesus and Mary.
Horus also raised "El-Azar-us" or "El-Osiris" from the dead, just as Christ was to raise "Lazarus." This story in itself is an allegory of the sun god Osiris being reborn.
There are others who match those similarities seen above. Dionysius for instance, rode on a triumphant ass. He was sacrificed as the Dendrites or Young man on the tree and eaten in a sacred Eucharist. He turned water into wine; given the title king of kings and rose from the dead. His cult actually entered Jerusalem around the time of Christ and was indeed thought to have been worshipped by the Jews. His symbol was IHS, a symbol still used by Christians. He was called Iasius in Crete, which is an equivalent to Iesu or Jesus.
Mithra, like Jesus, has his principal festival at Easter when he was resurrected and he had a Eucharist like Jesus.
In Phrygia the god Attis was crucified on a tree – a day known as ‘Black Friday.’ He was born on December 25th to a virgin named Nana. He had a Eucharist of bread as his body and was called the Son of God. After three days in the "underworld" of hell he ascended as god.
They are all basically descended from royal lineage and were generally wealthy. We know from looking around the folklore as well as these religious similarities that this royal lineage generally meant that they were descended from serpents or dragons. Jesus was of the line of David; Buddha the son of a Raj, and Chrishna descended of royal stock. They all are involved in some kind of trinity, as are many other faiths.
Chrishna, Buddha and Jesus all are ‘dragon slayers’ – they all "crush the head of the serpent." To all, the serpent is an emblem symbolic of ‘wisdom.’ To all, the serpent is intricately linked to their entire myth as a symbol of healing and is highly beneficent. And to all, yet again, the serpent is linked to the Elixir.
The Christian Church, which has destroyed much of our history over the past 1,500 years jealously guarded most of this information. The very messiahs of the globe were written over. Even Buddha became a Christian saint as St. Josaphat, taken from the Buddhist title, Bodhisat.
Christianity as a literal truth is now so heavily entrenched in the culture of the West that there is almost no attempt made to put the record straight. Recent television documentaries prove that the idea of the Christian story is still seen today as being literally true, and these are documentaries made by Journalists! The fact remains that the story is widespread and is an astronomical, serpent-oriented device for symbolic immortality and realisation of the self.
What we have seen here in this quick study is that India and Egypt, to name just two, are full of stories and religious texts that perfectly parallel the Christianity of the West and especially, pre-date it. The incredible stark reality of these facts are often fought over on the internet and in books and magazines and yet the force of faith is blind to the logic of reality and evidence. The battle will rage for a long time yet, but what we have today is a little more freedom of speech than our ancestors. The saviour is the sun, which gives us birth by seeding the earth mother with energy and then ticks away the hours of our life and ushers in our end. It is the ouroborus, the beginning and the end, the cycle of life and our saviour deities mimmick its every move.
Other souces to validate the above:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm
http://contenderministries.org/prophecy/eschatology.php
