Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logic?

[McCulloch]

I believe that the following facets of my faith can be demonstrated by logical deduction

2. The Bible is God's Word*

Can the Bible's divine authorship be demonstrated by logical deduction?

[Autumn Leaf]

For some months proceeding Sunday, November 19, 1899 the New York Sun had been devoting the better part of a page of its Sunday edition to the discussion of the truth of Christianity. On that date it printed a letter from one W.R.L., in which he denounced Christianity, using the old oft-refuted "arguments," and challenged "some champion of orthodoxy to come into the arena of the Sun," and give its readers some "facts" in defense of the Christian religion. The writer had not seen the N.Y. Sun for years, but on his way from South Framingham to Grafton, Massachusetts, a copy of the Sun of that date, left on a vacant seat in the train, 'fell into his hands.' The following letter met that challenge. http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi/esa08/letter.html

[Clownboat]

For some months proceeding Sunday, November 19, 1899 the New York Sun had been devoting the better part of a page of its Sunday edition to the discussion of the truth of Christianity. On that date it printed a letter from one W.R.L., in which he denounced Christianity, using the old oft-refuted "arguments," and challenged "some champion of orthodoxy to come into the arena of the Sun," and give its readers some "facts" in defense of the Christian religion. The writer had not seen the N.Y. Sun for years, but on his way from South Framingham to Grafton, Massachusetts, a copy of the Sun of that date, left on a vacant seat in the train, 'fell into his hands.' The following letter met that challenge. http://kotisivu.dnainternet.fi/esa08/letter.html

So the Qur'an and Gone with the Wind have divine authors for the same reasons? Or are you not consistent with what you will accept as evidence?

[arian]

But there are things we can know that make the Bible stand out as a document which claims to be the Word of God.

1. there is nothing in the Bible that contradicts our proper scientific understanding of the natural world
2. there are no contradictions

Feeling lazy, so let's just go with the first two for now.
What you are implying, but i'm guessing you will not agree to , is that if it is shown there ARE things in the Bible that contradict 'our proper scientific understanding of the natural world' then we know the Bible is NOT the Word of God.

1. The bible teaches a flat earth** and that the sun orbits the earth.
"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises. "
Ecclesiastes 1:5)

You'll have to talk to all the modern-age weathermen about this also, because for as long as I have been watching TV they keep saying that at sunrise it will be a cool 85 F here in Phoenix AZ, and at sun set it will be 101 F.
Now can you tell me how YOU with your ToE mentality explain a beautiful sunset or a sunrise? How many songs, poems do you know of that use a scientific description of a sunrise or a sunset? I sure would like to hear it?

Flat earth? Why, is it curved where you live?

Well, I suppose if you want to rate your God's accuracy with that of TV weathermen, that's your prerogative; however, if I were to believe in a 'god' I'd demand a higher standard.

Well ... I'm sure you didn't start your kids off by quoting Plato, or Kant to them, or Einstein's Theory of Relativity right? God is the same way, He teaches us one step at a time. Man is stubborn and slow to learn, God waits till we are ready to understand something before He reveals the next thing to us.

I mean look at how slow we are, ... after blowing up the first atomic bomb and learning that it left some serious deadly radiation behind, we went on to test hundreds and hundreds more with thousands of our own troops as ginny pigs. Then we use radiation to try to treat cancer LOL... I mean the MAIN cause of cancer is all this residual radiation floating around, and growing in our food supply, yet we use it to try to treat cancer???
So why should God teach us more before we're ready for it? Look at even with the little we do know, we managed to destroy the earth where half the world is starving, or dying from some sort of disease we created.

No my friend, I believe God placed too high of a standard on us to have revealed so much already. We were nowhere ready to learn even something simple as that the earth was round. He should have left us at the horse-and-buggy stage until we learned to get along with each other first.

I mean we can't even contain the energy that we did learn to use, oil is polluting our water, our ground, our air, killing millions upon millions, not to mention nuclear waste. And now we are into creating artificial bacteria to clean up our mess, that nothing can destroy? My God, ... let me enjoy those sun ups and sundowns as I walk on a flat earth before we wipe humanity off the face of this earth, ... please Lord.

And yes, the Earth is curved where I live. It's a fairly gentle curve, I'll concede, but indeed it curves around until it meets itself, forming a sphere. Is this news? If you leave Phoenix and go to the coast, you can look out on the ocean where you can see the curve.

Yes, unfortunately I can, and I see all the other things I mentioned also. But like I said, I'll take the old flat earth over what we face today anytime.

I have read the Bible thru. The problem some Christians face is that they don't realize or admit that at least the first 11 chapters of Genesis is rather obviously based on myths, stolen myths. 2 differing creation myths are used, hence the contradictions. Much of the rest of the book and Bible consist of historical fiction, or fictionalized history. Now I do not claim that means there is not some truth there, or that one need give up one's Christian faith because of these issues, but clinging to the idea that the Bible is without error and directly inspired by god and should be interpreted literally is problematic.

Yes I have read many myths, stolen myths all presented as original myths and found the Bible to be revelations of truths that I can build my life on, and if carefully followed, the entire world can build their life on it too. So I could say: "Look ma, ... this particular book of myths actually makes a lot of sense! Even perfect sense in some cases, and those things in there that I don't understand yet, still somehow fits in with what I do understand."

Now for you, a myth that 13.75 billion years ago a tiny rock in a point in space before space-time existed and created this universe might make more sense. For me, I could never build a life on those myths, and as we can see, neither can the world.

The real point here is that when a Christian says the Bible is perfect and has no contradictions, it in a way is an invalid claim, because he will not admit that if one can find error or inaccuracy that finding would affect his view.

Yea I know what you mean, 'a Christian says the Bible is perfect and has no contradictions' and then goes on to say that the One God speaking in there is really three different guys, plural as in 'more than one'. So the best thing is not to go by what Christians (or Jews) say that contradicts the Bible, but see for yourself if the Bible really contradicts itself or not?

Another word if the Bible says God is ONE, go with it and read the rest of the Bible sticking to God is ONE.
If the Bible says that Jesus is the Son of God, ... hey why not go with that and interpret the rest of the Bible with 'Jesus is the Son of God', and see if many of those 'contradictions' don't start to vanish? This is what I did and keep doing, and find that what I thought as contradictions are really not. It is when man creates his own doctrine through which he interprets the Bible that the contradictions start to multiply.