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Dad, mom ...I'm ...um, I'm gay

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The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

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99percentatheism wrote:
Danmark wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
Jake wrote:
bluethread wrote: No, parents are not life long dictators. However, children are not life long dependents, either. Parents have a right to their opinions and social standards, just as everyone else. Why should the parents be required to compromise their deeply held beliefs and support the child's decisions, while the child is not required to respect the parents and act accordingly.

I did not say anything about any "abstinence only crap". We are talking about children either demanding or requesting that parents be accepting of something that the parents believe to be destructive, just because they are their children. It is only natural for a parent to want to keep their children protected. That is why, a truly loving parent would teach their child to take criticism and realize that people are not going to accepting of certain behaviors. If a child wishes to do things contrary to the parents wishes, that is fine. However, to presume that a parent will "drive them into depression", just because that parent chooses not to support those activities, is to ignore the responsibilities that a child must learn to accept. That is not protecting the child, that is pandering to the child.

I agree, if a parent truly believes their child is acting in a destructive manner, it's logical for that parent to try to prevent that behavior.

We need to fight for acceptance of homosexuality rather than for tolerance by those who still won't be truly accepting.
A perfect example of the gay agenda that so many here seem to deny exists. It's not just good enough that people engage in a live and let live attitude towards a society that is made up of many kinds of people one may find objectionable. No, no, it's about forcing everyone to "accept" homosexuality.
The only 'agenda' is acceptance and equality. This is the same thing that women fought for; the same thing African Americans fought for, the same thing 'the Irish' fought for. The 'agenda' is simply asking for equality, fairness and dignity for all. Fewer and fewer people care about what the narrow minded opposition thinks or wants in its increasingly feckless desire to oppress those in the minority.
Is a man wife the equal of a woman wife in Christian truth?

No.

Is a woman husband the equal of a man husband in Christian truth.

No.

Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.

Forcing Christians to accept homosexual activism as their authority is either secular tyranny or religious persecution of the Bible-believing Christians no matter how small a minority they are.
You want to paint yourself as the 'minority', yet your viewpoint has historically been that of the oppressor. Yours is the viewpoint of the tyrant and persecutor, yet you want to call yourself 'victim.'

It's not a matter of force, but fairness;
Not a matter of persecution, but of protection.
It's not grumbling, but grace;
Not loathing, but love.
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99percentatheism wrote:
Danmark wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
Jake wrote:
bluethread wrote: No, parents are not life long dictators. However, children are not life long dependents, either. Parents have a right to their opinions and social standards, just as everyone else. Why should the parents be required to compromise their deeply held beliefs and support the child's decisions, while the child is not required to respect the parents and act accordingly.

I did not say anything about any "abstinence only crap". We are talking about children either demanding or requesting that parents be accepting of something that the parents believe to be destructive, just because they are their children. It is only natural for a parent to want to keep their children protected. That is why, a truly loving parent would teach their child to take criticism and realize that people are not going to accepting of certain behaviors. If a child wishes to do things contrary to the parents wishes, that is fine. However, to presume that a parent will "drive them into depression", just because that parent chooses not to support those activities, is to ignore the responsibilities that a child must learn to accept. That is not protecting the child, that is pandering to the child.

I agree, if a parent truly believes their child is acting in a destructive manner, it's logical for that parent to try to prevent that behavior.

We need to fight for acceptance of homosexuality rather than for tolerance by those who still won't be truly accepting.
A perfect example of the gay agenda that so many here seem to deny exists. It's not just good enough that people engage in a live and let live attitude towards a society that is made up of many kinds of people one may find objectionable. No, no, it's about forcing everyone to "accept" homosexuality.
The only 'agenda' is acceptance and equality. This is the same thing that women fought for; the same thing African Americans fought for, the same thing 'the Irish' fought for. The 'agenda' is simply asking for equality, fairness and dignity for all. Fewer and fewer people care about what the narrow minded opposition thinks or wants in its increasingly feckless desire to oppress those in the minority.
Is a man wife the equal of a woman wife in Christian truth?

No.

Is a woman husband the equal of a man husband in Christian truth.

No.

Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.

Forcing Christians to accept homosexual activism as their authority is either secular tyranny or religious persecution of the Bible-believing Christians no matter how small a minority they are.
The irony of such a remark from you is that you are hell-bent into 'forcing' others to believe as you believe. Christians, by definition, have Christ in common but they do not have everything in common. Isn't diversity a good - and maybe a God-given - thing?

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Danmark
99percentatheism wrote:
Danmark wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
Jake wrote:
bluethread wrote: No, parents are not life long dictators. However, children are not life long dependents, either. Parents have a right to their opinions and social standards, just as everyone else. Why should the parents be required to compromise their deeply held beliefs and support the child's decisions, while the child is not required to respect the parents and act accordingly.

I did not say anything about any "abstinence only crap". We are talking about children either demanding or requesting that parents be accepting of something that the parents believe to be destructive, just because they are their children. It is only natural for a parent to want to keep their children protected. That is why, a truly loving parent would teach their child to take criticism and realize that people are not going to accepting of certain behaviors. If a child wishes to do things contrary to the parents wishes, that is fine. However, to presume that a parent will "drive them into depression", just because that parent chooses not to support those activities, is to ignore the responsibilities that a child must learn to accept. That is not protecting the child, that is pandering to the child.

I agree, if a parent truly believes their child is acting in a destructive manner, it's logical for that parent to try to prevent that behavior.

We need to fight for acceptance of homosexuality rather than for tolerance by those who still won't be truly accepting.
A perfect example of the gay agenda that so many here seem to deny exists. It's not just good enough that people engage in a live and let live attitude towards a society that is made up of many kinds of people one may find objectionable. No, no, it's about forcing everyone to "accept" homosexuality.
The only 'agenda' is acceptance and equality. This is the same thing that women fought for; the same thing African Americans fought for, the same thing 'the Irish' fought for. The 'agenda' is simply asking for equality, fairness and dignity for all. Fewer and fewer people care about what the narrow minded opposition thinks or wants in its increasingly feckless desire to oppress those in the minority.
Is a man wife the equal of a woman wife in Christian truth?

No.

Is a woman husband the equal of a man husband in Christian truth.

No.

Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.

Forcing Christians to accept homosexual activism as their authority is either secular tyranny or religious persecution of the Bible-believing Christians no matter how small a minority they are.
You want to paint yourself as the 'minority', yet your viewpoint has historically been that of the oppressor.
Really? In history, in ancient Greece, if a man was the receiver of gay sex, he couldn't become a citizen.

Ask yourself why homosexuality has come down through the ages as so loathsome? So disapproved of? Where is a picture of a glorious homosexual civilization?
Yours is the viewpoint of the tyrant and persecutor, yet you want to call yourself 'victim.'
The propaganda you employ here proves that we are victims of intolerance. There is n o reason at all that Christians that will not celebrate gay behavior are bad guys. They are in fact the honest Christians.
It's not a matter of force, but fairness;
not a matter of persecution, but of protection.
It's not grumbling, but grace.
Reality shows that the immensely incompatible nature of gay culture with Christian life, has The Church being attacked by secular forces aligned with the gay agenda. The very fact that Justice Scalia used the phrase enemy of the human race as to what the other members of the Supreme Court have labeled Christians with testifies to that reality.

When you listen to liberal-progressive activists such as the "Reverend" Welton Gaddy and his ilk denigrate Christians that will not celebrate gay behavior, the forces arrayed against The Church look forboding entirely.

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99percentatheism wrote:

The propaganda you employ here proves that we are victims of intolerance. There is n o reason at all that Christians that will not celebrate gay behavior are bad guys. They are in fact the honest Christians.

Reality shows that the immensely incompatible nature of gay culture with Christian life, has The Church being attacked by secular forces aligned with the gay agenda. The very fact that Justice Scalia used the phrase enemy of the human race as to what the other members of the Supreme Court have labeled Christians with testifies to that reality.

[The lack of clarity in this sentence obfuscates whatever meaning was intended. I won't speculate about what your meaning was]

When you listen to liberal-progressive activists such as the "Reverend" Welton Gaddy and his ilk denigrate Christians that will not celebrate gay behavior, the forces arrayed against The Church look forboding entirely.
I certainly am not going to take responsibility for what extremist Christians say, whether they 'denigrate' homosexuals or their fellow Christians.
I repeat:
You paint yourself as the 'minority', yet your viewpoint has historically been that of the majority and the oppressor. You've given examples of that here.

I would think a Christian would embrace:

"It's not a matter of force, but fairness;
Not a matter of persecution, but of protection.
It's not grumbling, but grace;
Not loathing, but love."

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