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Are we living in the last days?

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JehovahsWitness wrote: From speaking with my brothers and sister, far from undermining our faith and causing confusion, the impact of coronavirus only serves to strengthen our conviction we are living in the last days and our resolve to preach the good news of the kingdom before the Lord tells us the work is complete.
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Are we living in the last days?

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Tcg wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:15 am
2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:09 am
If you don't want to follow the empires that's your choice, but it doesn't make it wrong to find out who the feet are. It just means it doesn't convince you and I'm cool with that. I'm not here to convince but inform, take it or leave it. You've chosen to leave it, so be it.
I didn't ask you to make unsupported claims about "the empires." I asked you to support your claims about the Bible and the U.S. And yes, I choose to to leave your unsupported claims as unsupported claims.


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You want to see the name United States in the Bible. It will not be there.
I can however show that Daniel chapter 2 speaks of 5 empires but the last 2 are not named. I was showing how we can figure out what the last two are even though they are not named. You have nothing to support that I'm wrong in how I get the names of those last two empires. I see your unsupported claim and raise you an unsupported claim against you. lol
Show me why I'm wrong about how to get the names of the last two kingdoms concerning the statue of Daniel ch 2.

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2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:27 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:15 am
2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:09 am
If you don't want to follow the empires that's your choice, but it doesn't make it wrong to find out who the feet are. It just means it doesn't convince you and I'm cool with that. I'm not here to convince but inform, take it or leave it. You've chosen to leave it, so be it.
I didn't ask you to make unsupported claims about "the empires." I asked you to support your claims about the Bible and the U.S. And yes, I choose to to leave your unsupported claims as unsupported claims.


Tcg
You want to see the name United States in the Bible. It will not be there.
Of course it won't be there. The authors of the Bible had an extremely limited view of geography. They had no idea that the lands we now call the U.S. existed.


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Tcg wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:32 am
2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:27 am
Tcg wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:15 am
2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:09 am
If you don't want to follow the empires that's your choice, but it doesn't make it wrong to find out who the feet are. It just means it doesn't convince you and I'm cool with that. I'm not here to convince but inform, take it or leave it. You've chosen to leave it, so be it.
I didn't ask you to make unsupported claims about "the empires." I asked you to support your claims about the Bible and the U.S. And yes, I choose to to leave your unsupported claims as unsupported claims.


Tcg
You want to see the name United States in the Bible. It will not be there.
Of course it won't be there. The authors of the Bible had an extremely limited view of geography. They had no idea that the lands we now call the U.S. existed.


Tcg
I do not use your limited view of the Bible, but to each his own.
But others that share my view of the Bible, I hope they find encouragement in what I typed seeing that we can figure out what the last two kingdoms are in the vision of Daniel, though they are not named in the Bible. All we have to do is read history.

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2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:41 am
I do not use your limited view of the Bible, but to each his own.
Ah, yes. An Ad Hominem in place of evidence to support your claim. Nothing but a logical fail.


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Tcg wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:49 am
2timothy316 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:41 am
I do not use your limited view of the Bible, but to each his own.
Ah, yes. An Ad Hominem in place of evidence to support your claim. Nothing but a logical fail.


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Whatever makes you feel better. Because I view the Bible different from you doesn't make me wrong about what I wrote. It just means you don't accept it and what is wrong or right in the world doesn't depend on your view of the bible or my view for that matter.

You said, "They had no idea that the lands we now call the U.S. existed." Did Daniel tell you this?
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Re: Are we living in the last days?

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The 'last day(s)' comprise a 2000 yrs + period which we are in, starting from the times of the apostles to present time. A total of 2300 years since the start of AD.

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Noose001 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:56 am The 'last day(s)' comprise a 2000 yrs + period which we are in, starting from the times of the apostles to present time. A total of 2300 years since the start of AD.
What Bible scriptures do you think says that the last days started that far back?

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[Replying to 2timothy316 in post #427]

I think all. Which bible verses doesn't approve the same?

All you need to do is a proper calculation of Daniel's 70 week prophesy.

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Noose001 wrote: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:24 am [Replying to 2timothy316 in post #427]

I think all. Which bible verses doesn't approve the same?

All you need to do is a proper calculation of Daniel's 70 week prophesy.
The 70 week prophesy brings us to the birth of the Christ.
Yet I don't see how last days could have started then when God's Word says in 2 Timothy 3:1-7, which was written after the death of Christ, points to a future time for the last days. No Bible writer writes that they were living in the last days of the world as we know it. All of them point to a future time.

Even Jesus' disciples asked when the conclusion of the system of things would be. (Matt 24:3). Then Jesus go on to speak of the things that would let them and us know that he was coming.

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[Replying to 2timothy316 in post #429]

i. The desciples didn't know anything. That's why they were promised the holy spirit to give them understanding.

ii. The Timothy claim that they were in the last days confirms my report that the last days are from the time of the apostles to now and beyond. precisely, the angel in Daniel said ' ....until 2300 evenings and mornings, then EVERYTHING SHALL BE ACCOMPLISHED..'. So, it is shall be 2300 AD.

But, you still need to show how the 70 wk prephesy is accomplished.
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