Joshua 10:12-13 God made the sun and moon stand still

[Compassionist]

"On the day the LORD gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the LORD in the presence of Israel: "Sun, stand still over Gibeon, and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon." So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day." - Joshua 10:12-13, The Bible (New International Version). If the Bible is true and this really happened, then why is there no records by any other civilizations of the extraordinary event of the sun and the moon standing still for a day? For this to occur, the Earth would need to suddenly stop rotating on its axis which would cause people and other animals, structures, bodies of water, etc. to be flung out into space due to inertia. Besides, how can a loving and just God command genocide?

[JehovahsWitness]

No, no, JW is right, the commonality makes it true...

Did I say commonality makes it true?

[Willum]

[Replying to post 51 by JehovahsWitness]

Ummm, yes.
First I need to defend your religion for you, now I need to defend your opinions from you?

Have you considered converting?
It is easy to change your user name, how about WanderingEldar?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 51 by JehovahsWitness]

Ummm, yes.

Can you show me where I said this?

[Willum]

[Replying to post 53 by JehovahsWitness]

???
Sure, click on the links and follow the thread back. I paraphrased, so I suppose you are going to come back crying "I didn't say that!" But that's what you said.

I love this, the Bible contradicts you, I have to quote a religion I don't believe in. History contradicts, and I have to quote that. You don't like what you have said later on, and I must requote that.

Your religion gives you many difficulties, join us.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 53 by JehovahsWitness]

???
Sure, click on the links and follow the thread back. I paraphrased,.

I'm not interested in "paraphrases" I'm very precise about the words I choose. If you claim I said that show me. You said it you find the quote.

JW

[Tired of the Nonsense]

[Replying to post 1 by Compassionist]

Maybe the sun didn't literally stand still; after all we speak of the sun rising (going up) and setting (going down), do you think that it literally moves up and down every day?

It seems reasonable to me that Joshua was miraculously given what he was asking for, more hours of light so he could successfully complete his battle. ie the sun appeared to stand still.


JW

Wikipedia
Splitting of the moon
We were along with God's Messenger at Mina, that moon was split up into two. One of its parts was behind the mountain and the other one was on this side of the mountain. God's Messenger said to us: Bear witness to this 039:6725

The narrative was used by some later Muslims to convince others of the prophethood of Muhammad. Annemarie Schimmel for example quotes the following from Muslim scholar Qadi Iyad who worked in the 12th century:[6]

It has not been said of any people on the earth that the moon was observed that night such that it could be stated that it was not split. Even if this had been reported from many different places, so that one would have to exclude the possibility that all agreed upon a lie, yet, we would not accept this as proof to the contrary, for the moon is not seen in the same way by different people... An eclipse is visible in one country but not in the other one; in one place it is total, in the other one only partial.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_of_the_moon

Was Muhammad given what he was asking for by God? Did the moon literally split in two? Did God simply make the moon appear to split in two as proof that Muhammad was His chosen prophet? Or is it possible that people sometimes tell whoppers, secure in the certainty that others will inevitably be gullible enough to believe them, no matter how foolish the claim?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 56 by Tired of the Nonsense]

Interesting post. Is there a reason why you said this to me? If so, what is the point you are making and why? (If you are intersted in an interpretation of the Koran, I do believe there is a dedicated sub-forum for such a discussion).


JW

[Willum]

[Replying to post 55 by JehovahsWitness]

I am sorry - I was summarizing and supporting your point.
I am supposed to do that by quoting exactly what you said, in a way that your debating partner didn't understand the first time around?

To quote yourself... because of your amazing ability to remember your own points...

Further, as I said the story is near on universal, for example the ancient aboriginals (there are not a whole lot of floods in the Australian outback) also have their flood legends, as do other desert people and mountainous tribes. Further the commonality of these myths cannot be easily explained away. Most if not all of them are depicted as catastrophic or "great" floods, often sent by their god(s) to destroy all sinners. The collecting of survivors (sometimes animals or seeds are mentioned) in a "boat" for the continuation of life.

You may recognize the word "commonality," used in my elaboration of your statement. "Universal," "commonality."

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 55 by JehovahsWitness]

I am sorry - I was summarizing and supporting your point.
I am supposed to do that by quoting exactly what you said, in a way that your debating partner didn't understand the first time around?

To quote yourself... because of your amazing ability to remember your own points...

Further, as I said the story is near on universal, for example the ancient aboriginals (there are not a whole lot of floods in the Australian outback) also have their flood legends, as do other desert people and mountainous tribes. Further the commonality of these myths cannot be easily explained away. Most if not all of them are depicted as catastrophic or "great" floods, often sent by their god(s) to destroy all sinners. The collecting of survivors (sometimes animals or seeds are mentioned) in a "boat" for the continuation of life.

You may recognize the word "commonality," used in my elaboration of your statement. "Universal," "commonality."

Yes, the question was not whether or not I used the word commonality, the question was...

Did I say commonality makes it true?

rather than this adds credence to the story

[Tired of the Nonsense]

[Replying to post 56 by Tired of the Nonsense]

Interesting post. Is there a reason why you said this to me? If so, what is the point you are making and why? (If you are intersted in an interpretation of the Koran, I do believe there is a dedicated sub-forum for such a discussion).


JW

Splitting the moon is a celestial phenomenon roughly equivalent to fixing the sun in the sky for a full day. Neither is remotely believable to the point of being purely silly. But one of these claims is contained in your book of revealed truth, and the other claim is contained in someone else's book of revealed truth. One claim you are forced to sustain, the other claim you are free to chuckle over. So I suppose I was attempting to point out that revealed truth and total fulla bulla can be entirely in the eye of the beholder. It was a statement about gullibility and the necessity of embracing abject gullibility in order to be consistent with whatever belief one has chosen to subscribe to.