How to change God

[Cmass]

Is it possible for you to alter your relationship with God in any way?

Can you do something to anger Him?

Can you please Him?

If you do a bad thing and pray for forgiveness, and He forgiveness you, have you altered your relationship with Him?
If you cannot change God in any way including changing His mind or obtaining forgiveness, then is there any meaning in prayer other than pure exaltation?

[McCulloch]

I couldn't even begin to understand what it feels like to have a child with special needs. But I can tell that both of you love your children very, very much. So, I guess all I can really say is that I'm glad that God gave them such loving parents.

It is a shame that God gave Anthony bad parents. They are divorced, his father is a bully with a restraining order against him and his mother tries to push her special needs son beyond what he is capable of being.
It is a shame that God gave David bad parents. They both died of AIDS in Kenya. He lives on the street, gathering what he can from a local dump for his livelihood.
It is a shame that God gave Fatima bad parents. They returned to their third world homeland where they arranged for someone to scrape off her clitoris with a sharp piece of glass.
It is a shame that God gave Heather bad parents. She does not know her father, and her mother, an alleged Christian, drank during her pregnancy. She has fetal alcohol syndrome.

It is a shame. In fact it sucks big time. I wish there was no sin in the world, and that the world was already exactly the way God intended it to be. But it is a work in progress. In the meantime, I'll guess I'll just keep doing what ever I can to make it better. To be God's hands and feet and do the work He has set before me.

My point is that you cannot consistently give God credit for giving our kids good parents while not giving God blame for giving other kids bad parents. You seem to be saying, "Isn't God good! He gave your kids loving parents. It really sucks that there is sin in the world, some kids get rotten parents."

Make up your mind, is God in control or not?

[FiredUp4jesus]

I couldn't even begin to understand what it feels like to have a child with special needs. But I can tell that both of you love your children very, very much. So, I guess all I can really say is that I'm glad that God gave them such loving parents.

It is a shame that God gave Anthony bad parents. They are divorced, his father is a bully with a restraining order against him and his mother tries to push her special needs son beyond what he is capable of being.
It is a shame that God gave David bad parents. They both died of AIDS in Kenya. He lives on the street, gathering what he can from a local dump for his livelihood.
It is a shame that God gave Fatima bad parents. They returned to their third world homeland where they arranged for someone to scrape off her clitoris with a sharp piece of glass.
It is a shame that God gave Heather bad parents. She does not know her father, and her mother, an alleged Christian, drank during her pregnancy. She has fetal alcohol syndrome.

It is a shame. In fact it sucks big time. I wish there was no sin in the world, and that the world was already exactly the way God intended it to be. But it is a work in progress. In the meantime, I'll guess I'll just keep doing what ever I can to make it better. To be God's hands and feet and do the work He has set before me.

My point is that you cannot consistently give God credit for giving our kids good parents while not giving God blame for giving other kids bad parents. You seem to be saying, "Isn't God good! He gave your kids loving parents. It really sucks that there is sin in the world, some kids get rotten parents."

Make up your mind, is God in control or not?

God is absolutely in control. However, sin is a real result of free will. Revelations tells us that one day God will remake the world so that there will be no more sin. Those who choose to reject God will be gone, and those who choose to serve Him will remain with Him. Until that day comes we just have to be the hands and feet of God and bring as much light to this dark world as we can.

[Confused]

I couldn't even begin to understand what it feels like to have a child with special needs. But I can tell that both of you love your children very, very much. So, I guess all I can really say is that I'm glad that God gave them such loving parents.

It is a shame that God gave Anthony bad parents. They are divorced, his father is a bully with a restraining order against him and his mother tries to push her special needs son beyond what he is capable of being.
It is a shame that God gave David bad parents. They both died of AIDS in Kenya. He lives on the street, gathering what he can from a local dump for his livelihood.
It is a shame that God gave Fatima bad parents. They returned to their third world homeland where they arranged for someone to scrape off her clitoris with a sharp piece of glass.
It is a shame that God gave Heather bad parents. She does not know her father, and her mother, an alleged Christian, drank during her pregnancy. She has fetal alcohol syndrome.

It is a shame. In fact it sucks big time. I wish there was no sin in the world, and that the world was already exactly the way God intended it to be. But it is a work in progress. In the meantime, I'll guess I'll just keep doing what ever I can to make it better. To be God's hands and feet and do the work He has set before me.

My point is that you cannot consistently give God credit for giving our kids good parents while not giving God blame for giving other kids bad parents. You seem to be saying, "Isn't God good! He gave your kids loving parents. It really sucks that there is sin in the world, some kids get rotten parents."

Make up your mind, is God in control or not?

God is absolutely in control. However, sin is a real result of free will. Revelations tells us that one day God will remake the world so that there will be no more sin. Those who choose to reject God will be gone, and those who choose to serve Him will remain with Him. Until that day comes we just have to be the hands and feet of God and bring as much light to this dark world as we can.

Ok; who dictates what sin is? God. Right. So you contend that to sin is to use the free will God gave us to go against him. Alan sins every day. Is it due to free will. God created Alan as he wanted him to be right? Now he is to be condemned for doing what God created him knowing he would do. And once again, Alan has no conscience or knowledge of right or wrong. Yet he sins. Is it because of free will? See FiredUp, if there is one exception then the whole thing falls apart. Either Alan is sinning out of free will in defiance of God, or he isn't. Which is it?

[McCulloch]

God is absolutely in control. However, sin is a real result of free will. Revelations tells us that one day God will remake the world so that there will be no more sin.

God will remake the world so that there will be no more sin. Sin is a result of free will. Therefore, in the remade world, there will be no free will.
And it will be a better world than the current one. Why the heck did God allow free will when the better world does not have it? How is God absolutely in control if there is also free will agents who can go against his will?

Back to this world. You admit that God sometimes gives special needs children to bad parents. He must love them a lot!

[FiredUp4jesus]

Ok; who dictates what sin is? God. Right. So you contend that to sin is to use the free will God gave us to go against him. Alan sins every day. Is it due to free will. God created Alan as he wanted him to be right? Now he is to be condemned for doing what God created him knowing he would do. And once again, Alan has no conscience or knowledge of right or wrong. Yet he sins. Is it because of free will? See FiredUp, if there is one exception then the whole thing falls apart. Either Alan is sinning out of free will in defiance of God, or he isn't. Which is it?

How do you know that Alan sins every day? Are you God? Sin is rebellion against God. If Alan is completely incapable of determining right from wrong, how can he sin? Like I've said before, it's not up to me to judge. My job is to glorify God in every way I can. Who am I to judge? I'm just a servant. I'm here to help not condem. When Alan meets God someday, you can rest assured that he will be judged according to his knowledge and ability by the one who knows him inside out and head to toe. God knows him completely and perfectly, even better than you do and will take everything into account when that day comes.

[Confused]

Ok; who dictates what sin is? God. Right. So you contend that to sin is to use the free will God gave us to go against him. Alan sins every day. Is it due to free will. God created Alan as he wanted him to be right? Now he is to be condemned for doing what God created him knowing he would do. And once again, Alan has no conscience or knowledge of right or wrong. Yet he sins. Is it because of free will? See FiredUp, if there is one exception then the whole thing falls apart. Either Alan is sinning out of free will in defiance of God, or he isn't. Which is it?

How do you know that Alan sins every day? Are you God? Sin is rebellion against God. If Alan is completely incapable of determining right from wrong, how can he sin? Like I've said before, it's not up to me to judge. My job is to glorify God in every way I can. Who am I to judge? I'm just a servant. I'm here to help not condem. When Alan meets God someday, you can rest assured that he will be judged according to his knowledge and ability by the one who knows him inside out and head to toe. God knows him completely and perfectly, even better than you do and will take everything into account when that day comes.

I get daily reports from his teacher telling me what he did to deserve a checkmark and what he did to deserve a plus. I can say with 100% certainty, he sins every day.

[FiredUp4jesus]

Ok; who dictates what sin is? God. Right. So you contend that to sin is to use the free will God gave us to go against him. Alan sins every day. Is it due to free will. God created Alan as he wanted him to be right? Now he is to be condemned for doing what God created him knowing he would do. And once again, Alan has no conscience or knowledge of right or wrong. Yet he sins. Is it because of free will? See FiredUp, if there is one exception then the whole thing falls apart. Either Alan is sinning out of free will in defiance of God, or he isn't. Which is it?

How do you know that Alan sins every day? Are you God? Sin is rebellion against God. If Alan is completely incapable of determining right from wrong, how can he sin? Like I've said before, it's not up to me to judge. My job is to glorify God in every way I can. Who am I to judge? I'm just a servant. I'm here to help not condem. When Alan meets God someday, you can rest assured that he will be judged according to his knowledge and ability by the one who knows him inside out and head to toe. God knows him completely and perfectly, even better than you do and will take everything into account when that day comes.

I get daily reports from his teacher telling me what he did to deserve a checkmark and what he did to deserve a plus. I can say with 100% certainty, he sins every day.

Sorry, I missed your response to this topic. How can you be so certain about something that only God knows?

[Confused]

Ok; who dictates what sin is? God. Right. So you contend that to sin is to use the free will God gave us to go against him. Alan sins every day. Is it due to free will. God created Alan as he wanted him to be right? Now he is to be condemned for doing what God created him knowing he would do. And once again, Alan has no conscience or knowledge of right or wrong. Yet he sins. Is it because of free will? See FiredUp, if there is one exception then the whole thing falls apart. Either Alan is sinning out of free will in defiance of God, or he isn't. Which is it?

How do you know that Alan sins every day? Are you God? Sin is rebellion against God. If Alan is completely incapable of determining right from wrong, how can he sin? Like I've said before, it's not up to me to judge. My job is to glorify God in every way I can. Who am I to judge? I'm just a servant. I'm here to help not condem. When Alan meets God someday, you can rest assured that he will be judged according to his knowledge and ability by the one who knows him inside out and head to toe. God knows him completely and perfectly, even better than you do and will take everything into account when that day comes.

I get daily reports from his teacher telling me what he did to deserve a checkmark and what he did to deserve a plus. I can say with 100% certainty, he sins every day.

Sorry, I missed your response to this topic. How can you be so certain about something that only God knows?

I see your point. I can only assume Alan's sins based on scripture. Maybe God sees it different. Maybe because Alan isn't doing them to spite God it may change the nature of the sin. But that is a slippery slope. Some of the best intention pave the road to hell.

[FiredUp4jesus]

I see your point. I can only assume Alan's sins based on scripture. Maybe God sees it different. Maybe because Alan isn't doing them to spite God it may change the nature of the sin. But that is a slippery slope. Some of the best intention pave the road to hell.

Sure, but those are willful acts like white lies or stealing from the rich to give to the poor. Just keep in mind that God is good and a perfect judge. Unlike a human judge He knows everything about you and your son and the circumstances of your life.