How to change God

[Cmass]

Is it possible for you to alter your relationship with God in any way?

Can you do something to anger Him?

Can you please Him?

If you do a bad thing and pray for forgiveness, and He forgiveness you, have you altered your relationship with Him?
If you cannot change God in any way including changing His mind or obtaining forgiveness, then is there any meaning in prayer other than pure exaltation?

[methylatedghosts]

Is it possible for you to alter your relationship with God in any way?

Can you do something to anger Him?

Can you please Him?

If you do a bad thing and pray for forgiveness, and He forgiveness you, have you altered your relationship with Him?
If you cannot change God in any way including changing His mind or obtaining forgiveness, then is there any meaning in prayer other than pure exaltation?

Anger and happiness are relative, and a human emotion. Not one of god. God is love, and the opposite of love (which he created to experience not-god) is fear.

A person doesn't need to ask for forgiveness. Your relationship with him does not change.

[Cmass]

methylatedghosts said:

Anger and happiness are relative, and a human emotion. Not one of god.

While Confused quoted the Bible:

and his heart was filled with pain.

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AB - 5 tokens for you! I'm not sure why - because I think it is a fairly weak explanation - but I like how confident and optimistic you seem & that is worth something.

And that is the primary purpose of prayer... not sending up a grocery list. With that said, I think you can get your prayers answered..if it is in line with what God has planned for you.

Hmmmm. So it would seem prayer would be more effective if you ask for things that God knows you need and not things you want. It sounds like it would also be a good idea to keep the list short and not ask for groceries.
Or, perhaps you should ONLY pray for God to "show you the way" (hints at what you should do). Perhaps it is silly to pray for any specific thing at all? I mean, I assume God already knows everything about what is going on in your mind and body all the way down to your nasty bits, no?

If a situation is going in a bad direction for you, and it is a direction God knows is not good for your spiritual health, and if you pray(A.k.A. include God in your situation), the prayer will be answered and that bad direction reversed.

So, you ARE in fact interacting with God and CHANGING a situation based upon that interaction? You are changing from a bad direction to a better direction by "asking" God for something or "presenting" yourself to God with the hope that there will be an interaction that will ultimately benefit you? You are USING God to your benefit? You are GIVING something to God and hoping for something in return - like forgiveness, health, riches, dead enemies who taste just like chicken. If you don't want or expect something in return for your prayer effort, then why bother?

[Confused]

Is it possible for you to alter your relationship with God in any way?

Can you do something to anger Him?

Can you please Him?

If you do a bad thing and pray for forgiveness, and He forgiveness you, have you altered your relationship with Him?
If you cannot change God in any way including changing His mind or obtaining forgiveness, then is there any meaning in prayer other than pure exaltation?

Though I have given examples how one might alter their relationship with god (Noah), prayer and exaltation in todays society goes expressly agains what christ preached:
Matthew 6:5-8 And when your pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. But when you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret will reward you. And when you pray, do not keep babbling like pagans, for they think that they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer.

[Cmass]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

[Confused]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

Bizzare, but true nonetheless. And so I live up to my handle of confused.

[AB]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

What's bizarre about it? Jesus is just giving insight to what prayer is. He is comparing true prayer to "showing off non-spiritual prayer". Prayer needs to be sincere.

[Confused]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

What's bizarre about it? Jesus is just giving insight to what prayer is. He is comparing true prayer to "showing off non-spiritual prayer". Prayer needs to be sincere.

Then why all the yelling "hallelujah, praise god, etc" during sermons

[AB]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

What's bizarre about it? Jesus is just giving insight to what prayer is. He is comparing true prayer to "showing off non-spiritual prayer". Prayer needs to be sincere.

Then why all the yelling "hallelujah, praise god, etc" during sermons

I don't see this as a contradiction to the point. Especially if the "hallelujah, praise, etc" is authentic straight to God.. whereas in Matthew Jesus was comparing real prayer straight to God versus "showing off to the world".

[Confused]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

What's bizarre about it? Jesus is just giving insight to what prayer is. He is comparing true prayer to "showing off non-spiritual prayer". Prayer needs to be sincere.

Then why all the yelling "hallelujah, praise god, etc" during sermons

I don't see this as a contradiction to the point. Especially if the "hallelujah, praise, etc" is authentic straight to God.. whereas in Matthew Jesus was comparing real prayer straight to God versus "showing off to the world".

Where in the bible does it say one must go to church to pray? Does it not say just the opposite, to silently, alone make your prayers known? I doubt the authenticity of the praise going to god. I think it is likely more homonal than anything else, just like people lighting lighters at concerts. It's a release of emotions. Wait, I forgot methylatedghosts said emotions are for humans not gods. So I guess bizarre truly does fit.

[AB]

Of course based on christian theology, we can anger him and make him happy in the exact same moment. But todays prayer goes against his commandment.
Personally, I think he needs a mood stablizer

LOL.
That Mathew quote is nothing less than bizarre.

What's bizarre about it? Jesus is just giving insight to what prayer is. He is comparing true prayer to "showing off non-spiritual prayer". Prayer needs to be sincere.

Then why all the yelling "hallelujah, praise god, etc" during sermons

I don't see this as a contradiction to the point. Especially if the "hallelujah, praise, etc" is authentic straight to God.. whereas in Matthew Jesus was comparing real prayer straight to God versus "showing off to the world".

Where in the bible does it say one must go to church to pray?

It doesn't say you must go to church to pray. A lot of times in the Bible there were no churchs to go to pray.. so why would it say you need to go to church to pray? I am not sure why you are asking this question. What's your point?

Does it not say just the opposite, to silently, alone make your prayers known?

No it doesn't. That reference to praying silently, is Jesus warring against fake showing off "prayer".

I doubt the authenticity of the praise going to god.

Your view on this may be right some of the time.. but there are other times you are wrong on this.

I think it is likely more homonal than anything else, just like people lighting lighters at concerts.

Your just discounting to suport your subjective view.