The reason for the Catholic Church's prohibition that woman cannot be priests is still found in the church's canon law.
The Church really doesn't want to be accused any longer for teaching that women are inferior to men, although the supplement to Aquinas' writings tells us so.
So the reason given now is that Jesus appointed only men to be priests.
But this claim is incomplete. Jesus only appointed Jewish men to be priests.
But doesn't the Church ordain non- Jewish males?
Why can't women be priests in the Catholic Church?
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Re: Why can't women be priests in the Catholic Church?
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The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
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The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
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Post #3Actually, God never said it, Paul wrote Corinthians 1,onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]
The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
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Who says men have to have it?Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it.
Why does anyone have to have 'the last word'? Why isn't there a dialog that creates thinking and mutual understanding? Why is it (assuming) 'because I said!"?If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair.
Yet God relied on them to write and teach his word? That makes sense.So humans and their reasoning can't always win.
Re: Why can't women be priests in the Catholic Church?
Post #5onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]
The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
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RESPONSE: Perhaps He didn't. Paul wrote Corinthians!
Re: Why can't women be priests in the Catholic Church?
Post #6The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does indeed make women inferior to men. You cannot use the word submissive and claim otherwise. The ramifications of this absurd advice can be seen in the position of women in some theocracies today. They derive their message from the biblical God as well.onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]
The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
Where women are demonstrably more intelligent than men they should take a lead, not a submissive role. Many of my women students outshone their male counterparts. I didn't suggest they should be submissive.
Occasionally we have to take what we read with a pinch of salt, even if it comes from Paul.
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Women studied with Jesus, Mary Magdalene calls him Master teacher. They witnessed his ministry, death and resurrection. Jesus even gave them messages to deliver to his Apostles.They were counted as one with Apostles Acts 1:14-15.
God is no respecter of persons - Acts 10:34, Deuteronomy 1:17, 10:17
Jesus is sole teacher - Pastor, Rabbi, Priest but structure is not step up as Jesus instructed. Certainly women can be Assistants under the sole teacher in that structure.
Some are given that message Matthew 19:10-13. We are his witnesses he was flesh is this not considered a union to become as one? He says you will considered as sisters, brothers, mother - Matthew 12:46-50, Luke 8:19-21
God is no respecter of persons - Acts 10:34, Deuteronomy 1:17, 10:17
Jesus is sole teacher - Pastor, Rabbi, Priest but structure is not step up as Jesus instructed. Certainly women can be Assistants under the sole teacher in that structure.
Some are given that message Matthew 19:10-13. We are his witnesses he was flesh is this not considered a union to become as one? He says you will considered as sisters, brothers, mother - Matthew 12:46-50, Luke 8:19-21
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Post #8I think that it is understood here on this forum that the entire Bible is inspired by God, that He put His thoughts into the minds of the writers of the Bible books. That would include I Corinthians.polonius wrote:Actually, God never said it, Paul wrote Corinthians 1,onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]
The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
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You must accept as inspired water baptism before you get the holy spirit that is the description Jesus provides Matthew 3:15-17 He says follow him Matthew 16:24I think that it is understood here on this forum that the entire Bible is inspired by God, that He put His thoughts into the minds of the writers of the Bible books. That would include I Corinthians.
1. There is no record of Paul's water baptism
2. Yahweh had to send 2 witnesses to give him message - Acts 21:4, 10 did not talk to him directly
3. He had thorn of the flesh - 2 Corinthians 12:7-9, Matthew 13:7
He fell to the thorns says Jesus. Who has ears let him hear Matthew 13:9
If Yahweh did not talk directly to him how can you say his words are inspired by Yahweh?
Re: Why can't women be priests in the Catholic Church?
Post #10RESPONSE:onewithhim wrote:I think that it is understood here on this forum that the entire Bible is inspired by God, that He put His thoughts into the minds of the writers of the Bible books. That would include I Corinthians.polonius wrote:Actually, God never said it, Paul wrote Corinthians 1,onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 1 by polonius]
The Bible's instruction that women should be submissive to men does not make them "inferior!" Someone has to have the very last word, and it is assigned to men to have it. If women had the last word, men would be arguing that it wasn't fair. So humans and their reasoning can't always win. God says the man is the head of the woman, and if He says it, it is so. (I Corinthians 11:3)
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OK. Lets take a basic question regarding God's authorship of the Bible.
Matt chapter 2 says that Jesus was born during the reign of King Herod who diedin 4 BC.
Luke, on the other hand, tells us that Jesus was born during the 6 AD Judean census.
That's a ten year difference.
Either there are two different Jesus' or this is a divine error. Right?