In the unlikely event of there being an afterlife what will it be like? Would we be the same people we are here on earth or totally different? If someone passes into the afterlife as a child, will they stay as such, not growing into an adult? If a person has a disability or illness will they continue to suffer from it?
What do others think?
If there is an afterlife
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Re: If there is an afterlife
Post #51[Replying to post 45 by Diagoras]
Are we supposed to debate you memories or did you have a point? If so, do you feel inclined to express it in words in a post?
If not, I will understand. Please have a pleasant evening whatever you decide.
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Are we supposed to debate you memories or did you have a point? If so, do you feel inclined to express it in words in a post?
If not, I will understand. Please have a pleasant evening whatever you decide.
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Re: If there is an afterlife
Post #52[Replying to post 51 by JehovahsWitness]
William: I understood the point being made. JW claimed something which reminded Diagoras of a cartoon, and the cartoon made a similar point as to my questioning the validity of JWs beliefs regarding gods and miracles and demons parading as gods doing miracles. At least JW graced Diagoras with some kind of an answer, albeit ungracious of tone.
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William: I understood the point being made. JW claimed something which reminded Diagoras of a cartoon, and the cartoon made a similar point as to my questioning the validity of JWs beliefs regarding gods and miracles and demons parading as gods doing miracles. At least JW graced Diagoras with some kind of an answer, albeit ungracious of tone.
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Re: If there is an afterlife
Post #53[Replying to post 52 by William]
Exactly. The cartoon accurately expresses the humour derived from a situation where one person is content with a miracle as an adequate explanation, while a second is more sceptical. Glad to see the point was not lost.
Exactly. The cartoon accurately expresses the humour derived from a situation where one person is content with a miracle as an adequate explanation, while a second is more sceptical. Glad to see the point was not lost.
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Re: If there is an afterlife
Post #54A quick recap:William wrote: Diagoras: If so, that joins the everyone gets their own school of thought. If not, then Im interested to hear how its different.
William: I am unclear as to what, if any point, you are trying to make here.
Youre of the belief that there is some form of afterlife.
In your case, this is something called The Hub.
You also state that everyone elses afterlife is (to some extent) their own creation.
I think you believe that everyone elses afterlife is in some way part of The Hub - not too sure of this though.
You describe a process (possibly implying a journey of self-knowledge and nurturing certain beliefs) by which youll reach your afterlife.
So Im just asking whether you believe everyone elses process is similar. Not exactly the same, but broadly the same type of journey. Hopefully a fairly simple answer is possible.
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Post #55Just to clarify, bjs wasnt the author of the question you answered, it was me.sleepyhead wrote:Hello bjs,
Just like to clear up the reincarnation part of your response. We are originally souls. As souls we figured out how to inhabit physical bodies. The physical bodies come about through biology so there not stored somewhere. After the body dies the soul leaves the body. After being encased in the body for several years when it leaves there may or may not retain some physical characteristics of the body it just left for some time afterwards but that's just speculation on my part.
Re: your speculation, what do you think some of those physical characteristics might be?
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Hello Diagoras,
>>:>Re: your speculation, what do you think some of those physical characteristics might be?<<<
I am a student of the Edgar Cayce material and many of his readings had to do with the afterlife. This is where I got most of my understanding of the afterlife. There was one reading where several of the recently departed were playing baseball. He was able to see departed people. They looked largely like they did before death.
>>:>Re: your speculation, what do you think some of those physical characteristics might be?<<<
I am a student of the Edgar Cayce material and many of his readings had to do with the afterlife. This is where I got most of my understanding of the afterlife. There was one reading where several of the recently departed were playing baseball. He was able to see departed people. They looked largely like they did before death.
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And have you ever considered how reliable a source Edgar Cayce was for information about the afterlife? He did make a number of statements about Atlantis, for example, that proved to be... a little wide of the mark.
And have you ever considered how reliable a source Edgar Cayce was for information about the afterlife? He did make a number of statements about Atlantis, for example, that proved to be... a little wide of the mark.
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Re: If there is an afterlife
Post #58[Replying to post 54]
Diagoras: A quick recap:
Youre of the belief that there is some form of afterlife.
William: It is more of an understanding based upon research and some of my own experiences.
I believe it might be the case that whatever I have belief in, plus those other variants I mentioned, will shape my next experience, should such be just an unavoidable largely hidden aspect of the nature of things.
Diagoras: In your case, this is something called The Hub.
William: In my case it is the totality of the Hologram Universes as well as the Universe which might possibly be hidden from sight but connected to the Hologram Universes.
The Hub itself represents where I would want my beliefs to land me.
My 'Mansion" Jesus prepares for me, in "The Fathers House", so to speak.
Diagoras: You also state that everyone elses afterlife is (to some extent) their own creation.
William: No. Rather to all extent.
No two stories are the same, but they all share similar properties.
Diagoras: I think you believe that everyone elses afterlife is in some way part of The Hub - not too sure of this though.
William: The Hub is simply the central position in which all of the creations made by Human Creators fan out in every direction. Think of a dandelion flower as an analogy, only in the case of The Hologram Universes, there appears to be is no end to it.
Diagoras: You describe a process (possibly implying a journey of self-knowledge and nurturing certain beliefs) by which youll reach your afterlife.
William: The journey itself will begin immediately upon death - the transition point between realities. Right now I describe a process of preparation in anticipation of the possibility that the theory might be correct.
I expect the journey to be instantaneous, like with travelling though use of The Gem, as described in Act III of Musing On The Mother
Diagoras: So Im just asking whether you believe everyone elses process is similar. Not exactly the same, but broadly the same type of journey.
William: From what I can gather, everyone's journey is different but the algorithm is the same.
Individual beliefs etc act as filters which activate the algorithm to respond accordingly...enabled to reflect exactly what the individual creates.
Diagoras: A quick recap:
Youre of the belief that there is some form of afterlife.
William: It is more of an understanding based upon research and some of my own experiences.
I believe it might be the case that whatever I have belief in, plus those other variants I mentioned, will shape my next experience, should such be just an unavoidable largely hidden aspect of the nature of things.
Diagoras: In your case, this is something called The Hub.
William: In my case it is the totality of the Hologram Universes as well as the Universe which might possibly be hidden from sight but connected to the Hologram Universes.
The Hub itself represents where I would want my beliefs to land me.
My 'Mansion" Jesus prepares for me, in "The Fathers House", so to speak.
Diagoras: You also state that everyone elses afterlife is (to some extent) their own creation.
William: No. Rather to all extent.
No two stories are the same, but they all share similar properties.
Diagoras: I think you believe that everyone elses afterlife is in some way part of The Hub - not too sure of this though.
William: The Hub is simply the central position in which all of the creations made by Human Creators fan out in every direction. Think of a dandelion flower as an analogy, only in the case of The Hologram Universes, there appears to be is no end to it.
Diagoras: You describe a process (possibly implying a journey of self-knowledge and nurturing certain beliefs) by which youll reach your afterlife.
William: The journey itself will begin immediately upon death - the transition point between realities. Right now I describe a process of preparation in anticipation of the possibility that the theory might be correct.
I expect the journey to be instantaneous, like with travelling though use of The Gem, as described in Act III of Musing On The Mother
Diagoras: So Im just asking whether you believe everyone elses process is similar. Not exactly the same, but broadly the same type of journey.
William: From what I can gather, everyone's journey is different but the algorithm is the same.
Individual beliefs etc act as filters which activate the algorithm to respond accordingly...enabled to reflect exactly what the individual creates.
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Hello Diagoras,Diagoras wrote: [Replying to post 56 by sleepyhead]
And have you ever considered how reliable a source Edgar Cayce was for information about the afterlife? He did make a number of statements about Atlantis, for example, that proved to be... a little wide of the mark.
Yes. The checkpoint for me is if the information is incoherent with proven knowledge. There was a psychologist (Harmon Bro) who lived with EC and observed his readings for several years. He observed that the quality of the readings varied dependent on many factors. His insights into the process would be valuable for anyone looking into the material of any mystic. The readings are not to be viewed as infallible. I'm not aware of any statements about Atlantis that were shown to be incoherent with what is proven knowledge.
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