Charles wrote:
We are in need of a saviour because WE CHOSE BY OUR OWN FREE WILL TO REBEL AGAINST HIS WILL OR HIS PLANS FOR US... not by inherited sin...
concept.
This is quite the curious statement, Charles. The very fact that, yes, we
chose to rebel against God's will is
because we
naturally think we know better. We
naturally think we can be like God. We
naturally think we can be our own God. This is the nature that Adam took on -- exactly what God said would happen in Genesis 2:17 -- when he ate the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And being his progeny -- his wife Eve was the mother of all the living, as Genesis 3:20 says -- we have as our
natural inheritance that same sinful nature. Our free will merely follows our nature; we cannot go against our core being. This is the human condition. The reason it's a curious statement is that you say WE need a Savior, and WE chose, and I agree with that, but then you disavow inherited sinful nature. If we had no sinful nature, then we wouldn't need a Savior, because we wouldn't sin. Right? Well, regardless what you might say, that's right. So your actually contradicting yourself here.
Charles wrote:
Whether it is called being created evil or with a sinful nature, it all means the same thing...
Not at all. See below.
Charles wrote:
if we are not changed by a rebirth we will face eternal hell. No true guilt can accrue to anyone who does not choose evil by his own free will...
Now this I agree with. But again, why do we, of our own free will, chose evil? Because it's in our very nature, which we acquire at birth from our first parents. Again, see below.
Charles wrote:
Man's law is not superior to GOD's!!!
Um, nobody ever insinuated anything of the sort...
Charles wrote:
since the doctrine of inherited sin says we are not sinners by
choosing this sin, the one who makes us (creates us, forces us to be) in this evil is the one guilty for our evil.
LOL! The doctrine of Original Sin... Well, here again is the Westminster Confession of Faith (based
entirely on God's Word):
- 1. Our first parents, being seduced by the subtilty and temptation of Satan, sinned, in eating the forbidden fruit. This their sin, God was pleased, according to his wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to order it to his own glory.
2. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion with God, and so became dead in sin, and wholly defiled in all the parts and faculties of soul and body.
3. They being the root of all mankind, the guilt of this sin was imputed; and the same death in sin, and corrupted nature, conveyed to all their posterity descending from them by ordinary generation.
4. From this original corruption, whereby we are utterly indisposed, disabled, and made opposite to all good, and wholly inclined to all evil, do proceed all actual transgressions.
5. This corruption of nature, during this life, doth remain in those that are regenerated; and although it be, through Christ, pardoned, and mortified; yet both itself, and all the motions thereof, are truly and properly sin.
6. Every sin, both original and actual, being a transgression of the righteous law of God, and contrary thereunto, doth, in its own nature, bring guilt upon the sinner, whereby he is bound over to the wrath of God, and curse of the law, and so made subject to death, with all miseries spiritual, temporal, and eternal.
There is nothing in there that tramples on "free will," nothing in there that implies, either implicitly or explicitly in any shape, form, or fashion, that God "makes or creates or forces us to be in this evil." So this "idea" is in no way whatsoever "blasphemous."
Again, grace and peace to you.
