If you belive God create it, then God at least does nothing to stop it. Is God killing many humans again to be spiteful? To teach us a lesson? Just because he can?
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IS God testing us to make sure we still have faith as he kills your parents, spouse or kids?
Why did God create Coronavirus (COVID-19)?
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Re: Where did the covid-19 virus come from?
Post #41This false dichotomy comparable to saying that if robbing a bank results in jail time, going to banks is illegal. Or if sleeping with a woman gets you shot by her husband, sex causes gunshot wounds.Purple Knight wrote:
If sickness and death were a natural result of eating the apple, then the apple was dangerous.
You might like to check your posts, your logical fallacy is showing.
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Re: Where did the covid-19 virus come from?
Post #42Thank you for answering. I concede. I have no rebuttal to this.JehovahsWitness wrote:This false dichotomy comparable to saying that if robbing a bank results in jail time, going to banks is illegal. Or if sleeping with a woman gets you shot by her husband, sex causes gunshot wounds.
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Re: Where did the covid-19 virus come from?
Post #43Purple Knight wrote:
If sickness and death were rather a direct punishment from God for eating the apple, then God created deadly viruses as part of that punishment.
Not necessarily. God created all living things to exist in perfect the harmony that would result in happy and healthy human and animal life. Biblically however this could only be sustained by staying in spiritual communion with Him. Like unplugging an electric fan from a wall, when Adam and Eve sinned they cut themselves off from the source of perfect life and their bodies began to malfuncion, wind down and die. Sickness and death are simply the absence of perfect life. God created the latter, Adam and Eve by their actions caused the former both for themselves and their offspring.
Any pathogens harmful to humans evolved or were developped as a result of the above self incurred malfunction.
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Re: Why did God create Coronavirus (COVID-19)?
Post #44To me, at least, the wisdom of those who believe in Him is found in not answer for Him unless He has already given His answer.Tcg wrote:I agree. It's a bit like expecting a scarecrow to explain itself. Like god/gods, it serves the purpose is was invented for and should not be expected to speak under any circumstance.bjs wrote:
God rarely feels the need to explain His “Why� to people. I would be surprised if He broke that rule in this circumstance.
The OP of course doesn't ask God to explain why, but rather asks those who believe God created this virus to consider why God would create it. As is the case with so many inquiries, we must depend on those who believe in him to answer for him given that, like the scarecrow, he remains mute.
You may compare this to a scarecrow. I would compare it more wondering why a human does not regularly explain his choices to an ameba.
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Re: Where did the covid-19 virus come from?
Post #45[Replying to post 43 by JehovahsWitness]
Except that when you unplug a fan it does not begin to alter itself to make it malfunction and ultimately die. God had to introduce all those malfunctions in Adam and Eve or nothing would have happened to them.Like unplugging an electric fan from a wall, when Adam and Eve sinned they cut themselves off from the source of perfect life and their bodies began to malfuncion, wind down and die. Sickness and death are simply the absence of perfect life.
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Re: Why did God create Coronavirus (COVID-19)?
Post #46[Replying to post 44 by bjs]
Amoeba are not made in our image, nor do they communicate with us in a meaningful way. We don't have expectations of amoeba. If we are like amoeba to God then the Bible and all else is just a total waste of time.I would compare it more wondering why a human does not regularly explain his choices to an ameba.
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Re: Why did God create Coronavirus (COVID-19)?
Post #47And yet in this statement, "God rarely feels the need to explain His “Why� to people.", you answered for him. In what manner did he give you this answer?bjs wrote:To me, at least, the wisdom of those who believe in Him is found in not answer for Him unless He has already given His answer.Tcg wrote:I agree. It's a bit like expecting a scarecrow to explain itself. Like god/gods, it serves the purpose is was invented for and should not be expected to speak under any circumstance.bjs wrote:
God rarely feels the need to explain His “Why� to people. I would be surprised if He broke that rule in this circumstance.
The OP of course doesn't ask God to explain why, but rather asks those who believe God created this virus to consider why God would create it. As is the case with so many inquiries, we must depend on those who believe in him to answer for him given that, like the scarecrow, he remains mute.
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Since God created everything, all of life, according to the Bible, we can reasonably assume he created SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. Why would God send this plague? It does not appear to be aimed at anyone in particular...
... except maybe those who deny science and put their trust in God and/or mammon rather than in the scientists and medical experts.
... except maybe those who deny science and put their trust in God and/or mammon rather than in the scientists and medical experts.
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Funny how the JW that likes to preach never answered my original questions.
If god did not create the virus then it evolved. Do you then belive in evolution or only belive in evolution when it suits your need?
Why does God allow this virus to kill believers that have faith?
Why doesn't pray cure it? Does pray cure anything?
If god did not create the virus then it evolved. Do you then belive in evolution or only belive in evolution when it suits your need?
Why does God allow this virus to kill believers that have faith?
Why doesn't pray cure it? Does pray cure anything?
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Re: Why did God create Coronavirus (COVID-19)?
Post #50Not to God. He understands everything he's doing.brunumb wrote: [Replying to post 44 by bjs]
Amoeba are not made in our image, nor do they communicate with us in a meaningful way. We don't have expectations of amoeba. If we are like amoeba to God then the Bible and all else is just a total waste of time.I would compare it more wondering why a human does not regularly explain his choices to an ameba.
Can we ever meet expectation? No.
And that's what it's all about.
And there is a certain objective capability here even if we're as far below God as amoebae are below us.
An amoeba can't feel emotional pain or inadequacy because it can never meet expectation. An amoeba can't feel shame or desire that it would be something better.
We can.
It would be silly for us to lay down the moral law to a bunch of amoebae. They wouldn't get it. They wouldn't even try.
We don't get it, we don't ever reach the goal... but we do try.