Just Makin' Stuff Up

[SallyF]

Elsewhere we have successfully demonstrated that the biblical god, Yahweh, is never shown to be anything other than imaginary.

Can we demonstrate here - beyond clutching at the odd verifiable name - that any of the biblical stories are anything more than people just makin' stuff up ?

[Thomas123]

Elsewhere we have successfully demonstrated that the biblical god, Yahweh, is never shown to be anything other than imaginary.

Can we demonstrate here - beyond clutching at the odd verifiable name - that any of the biblical stories are anything more than people just makin' stuff up ?

This argument against Christianity could be swept away with a simple demonstration that a SINGLE biblical STORY is NOT people just makin' stuff up.


The fact that it has not happened here


And the fact that I have NEVER seen it happen ANYWHERE


Continues to lead me to suspect - and strongly suggest - that Christianity is FOUNDED on made-up stuff.


If Christianity is NOT founded on human fabrications


It should be quite straightforward for humans to demonstrate it.


Just a SINGLE story from the whole glittering edifice of "faith and belief" would suffice.

SallyF, you continue to confuse me greatly!
When did your thread become a question about Christianity?
I thought it was about the Bible in general!

[SallyF]

SallyF, you continue to confuse me greatly!
When did your thread become a question about Christianity?
I thought it was about the Bible in general!

Let me lay it out very simply for you then


This sub-forum argues for and against Christianity.


I argue against all the Christianities, because they look to me to have been a fraud from the very start.


To demonstrate my position by presenting the absence of evidence for many Christian claims and presenting evidence against Christian claims.


I'm quite simply presenting here is my observation that not a single biblical story is EVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up


You know, fireside make-believe about gods and angels and talking animals and resurrections and such.


And here in this thread, I offer folks the opportunity to present biblical stories that are NOT people just makin' stuff up.


Not a soul has done this

Though we have had attempts and diversions and distractions and confusions and the usual sort of stuff.


Given that the glittering edifice of Christianity appears to be founded on fireside make-believe


That fireside make-believe provides a very strong argument against Christianity

Which is half the purpose of this sub-forum.


I hope your confusion has dissipated enough for you to successfully address the other half.


Just one biblical story that can be shown as anything other than fireside makin' stuff up make-believe would suffice.

[Thomas123]

SallyF: Let me lay it out very simply for you then
This sub-forum argues for and against Christianity

Thank You for that clarification.
Is it a fact that the only way I can personally get on this subforum is by either accepting or by debating specifically against the Christian Christ concept. If a person believes Jesus to be a prophet of Yahweh but not a God then they should not be here. Is this correct. It probably is.
I am not a Jew or a Christian and many of the debate positions on this subforum are similar to my attitude to Jesus and the Bible.
The dilemma here is not of your making SallyF, but your natural assumption in the opening post does highlight a fundamental problem. On this rule stipulation you will lose many fine debaters from this subforum, from both sides. This cannot be arbitrated upon by assumption,, How many debate positions must technically, be called out?

There are so many nuances to the Christian Christ concept but they all assume physical human Divinity within them. I reject the concept of actual physical Divinity, but care little that many people accept this position. How many submissions from debaters on this subforum are specifically and fundamentally pro or anti the Christian Christ concept.

Apologetics: reasoned arguments or writings in justification of something, typically a theory or religious doctrine.

Surely this is not confined to the Christian Christ Concept

Matthew 8 : 20
And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

[Thomas123]

Dealing with Christian interpretation is a very sophisticated activity.

Take the Daniel , Messiah, prophecies for example.
Christ the anointed one is made into a Roman Son.
The literature is teeming with literary props to support this hypothesis.
You can draw any conclusions you like from this entanglement.

I personally am not anti Christian in any way, and the subject of their beliefs, interests me little. Look and consider the similarities here for example

Daniel 12
5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

Matthew 14
25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.
33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

[1213]

I ONLY asked here if anyone can demonstrate that ANY biblical STORY is anything more than people just makin' stuff up...

Yes, but I dont think people can demonstrate anything in history to be true. It does not mean that nothing really happened before this day.

[Purple Knight]

Did she exist? Make a call.

Maybe not. I've admitted this before.

[SallyF]

Elsewhere we have successfully demonstrated that the biblical god, Yahweh, is never shown to be anything other than imaginary.

Can we demonstrate here - beyond clutching at the odd verifiable name - that any of the biblical stories are anything more than people just makin' stuff up ?

This topic has been up for nearly a week


And we've had nearly 600 peeks at it.


And NOT A SOUL has even begun to try and demonstrate that a SINGLE BIBLICAL STORY is anything more than people just makin' stuff up.


This is one of the very many reasons that I am an Atheist.

[Purple Knight]

This is one of the very many reasons that I am an Atheist.

I'm an atheist primarily because I refuse to believe the Biblical God has anything to do with what I must do to be a moral person. (I don't think it exists, but even if it does, I still hold this true.)

If it exists, so be it. It exists the same way other powerful beings exist. Star Trek's Q is not god. Superman's Mister Mxyzptlk is not god. Assume they exist and tell me why not.

Then apply the same reasoning to the Biblical God.

If you're honest, you'll go, "Oooooh. I see."

[SallyF]

Elsewhere we have successfully demonstrated that the biblical god, Yahweh, is never shown to be anything other than imaginary.

Can we demonstrate here - beyond clutching at the odd verifiable name - that any of the biblical stories are anything more than people just makin' stuff up ?

We have indeed successfully demonstrated that the biblical god, Yahweh, is never shown to be anything other than imaginary.

We have successfully demonstrated here - beyond clutching at the odd verifiable name - that NONE of the biblical stories are anything more than people just makin' stuff up.

I am claiming a victory in this debate topic

And moving on to another.