JehovahsWitness wrote:
From speaking with my brothers and sister, far from undermining our faith and causing confusion, the impact of coronavirus only serves to strengthen our conviction we are living in the last days and our resolve to preach the good news of the kingdom before the Lord tells us the work is complete.
I'm going to let the events coming up be my debate argument. I have this thread bookmarked, and if this website stays here, as we pass the milestones I'll put the dates on my post for those demanding proof. People will have to know that Jehovah is the true God at some point. Not by what I say but what the Bible says. (This is sounding more like a hailstone message.) Oops!
It's been one week since this plan was revealed. No milestones or dates have been listed yet. Apparently, nothing the Bible says concerning the Last Days has happened yet.
William: Who is to say that The Earth Entity does not have the same attitude as YHWH?For that matter, who is to say that The Earth Entity and YHWH are not one and the same?
Is Yahweh the Creator God of Genesis, the same as the Earth Entity?
Definitely not!
Even from the start Yahweh is more than that.
William: How so?
Your video is a fine utopian wish, imho
William: What makes your belief that YHWH worship (undefined) is anything other than wishful thinking?
I would use the earths beauty ,in photography,as an accurate representation of God's work and when combined sincerely with Scripture it would be instructive.
William: Recently the Planet Entity showed us She could shut down the mighty engines of human social construct.
What has YHWH done recently to show His ability to move mountains, that your suggestions should be taken seriously while mine (iyho of course) are simply 'pipe-dreams'?
What has YHWH done recently to show His ability to move mountains, that your suggestions should be taken seriously while mine (iyho of course) are simply 'pipe-dreams'?
William: While I wait for a reply to my question, I might as well continue.
IF
YHWH created Earth (and all else in the heavens) but isn't The Planet Entity on the grounds that He works remotely from home, and only programs the Simulation by creating algorithms which are translated into the planets goings-on
THEN:
It is acceptable to regard The Planet as an extension of YHWHs expressions, and this is how the planet becomes a living self aware entity.
Even be that it may, the algorithms are running on auto...
William: Remember, we are not speaking of form here. We are speaking of attitude which comes through form
When did you change the remit of our engagement to this ?
William: I have not changed my position on anything to do with the Earth Entity. The planet is simply Her form...when I speak of Her, I speak of the Conscious Intelligent Self Aware Entity She happens to be, not the form of the planet She largely inhabits...
How do you see YHWH? As a form of some kind?
William: William: Recently the Planet Entity showed us She could shut down the mighty engines of human social construct.
What has YHWH done recently to show His ability to move mountains, that your suggestions should be taken seriously while mine (iyho of course) are simply 'pipe-dreams'?
For the third time,......
Are people more likely to believe in a planet or in a God?
William: I will keep asking you then. What exactly is 'worshiping YHWH' and why do you think that there is a better chance people will do this than build for themselves a system of parity?
And why do you consider the two things to be different?
Please read and consider my replies to date. This is the closest you came to answering my question ,for which there is only one answer.
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Thomas123 (amusing numerical coincidence)
Quote:A rather simplistic question for you ,William.
Are people more likely to believe in a planet or in a God?
William:Â Is that a trick question?
The idea that the Planet has many of the attributes a God is required to have Thomas, allows the ability of humankind to regard the planet in this way. No one has to believe in this image being a photograph of said God in that - at least it does exist. Thomas123
I am personally tired of this side-topic ping pong. You inadvertently ask me to help you elevate the earth entity proposal of yours out of it's assigned obscurity by comparing it to Yahweh worship. I promote a personal environmental agenda through this faith. I have lost faith in the simplified earth presentation being effectively real. It is one thing to allow humankind their abilities but, you and others have attempted to lead them to this water for a long time now, by using this methodology. As I said, people are hard to inspire! If Attenborough couldn't do it then what hope is left here?
Good Luck with your project and if you get there before me, Well Done!
Thomas123 wrote:
Please read and consider my replies to date. This is the closest you came to answering my question ,for which there is only one answer.
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Thomas123 (amusing numerical coincidence)
Quote:A rather simplistic question for you ,William.
Are people more likely to believe in a planet or in a God?
William:Â Is that a trick question?
The idea that the Planet has many of the attributes a God is required to have Thomas, allows the ability of humankind to regard the planet in this way. No one has to believe in this image being a photograph of said God in that - at least it does exist.
Thomas123
I am personally tired of this side-topic ping pong. You inadvertently ask me to help you elevate the earth entity proposal of yours out of it's assigned obscurity by comparing it to Yahweh worship. I promote a personal environmental agenda through this faith. I have lost faith in the simplified earth presentation being effectively real. It is one thing to allow humankind their abilities but, you and others have attempted to lead them to this water for a long time now, by using this methodology. As I said, people are hard to inspire! If Attenborough couldn't do it then what hope is left here?
Good Luck with your project and if you get there before me, Well Done!
William: I was under the impression that you thought that worship of YHWH was the better alternative, which is why I asked those questions - I have been of the understanding for 40 years now, that The LORD is supportive of...what you and others refer to as "Utopia" - (some even being derisive in their use of the word) - so yes - it is with some surprise to me that you, who have been claiming that 'Worship of YHWH" is the answer to the worlds problems, would think that such an idea is a hopeless one to entertain, let alone actively support.
Thanks for clarifying your position on the matter. Go Well.
I'm going to let the events coming up be my debate argument. I have this thread bookmarked, and if this website stays here, as we pass the milestones I'll put the dates on my post for those demanding proof. People will have to know that Jehovah is the true God at some point. Not by what I say but what the Bible says. (This is sounding more like a hailstone message.) Oops!
Another week has passed with no milestones to report. Week #2 and there are still no events that qualify for this commitment, "to let the events coming up be my debate argument."
Perhaps next week.
Tcg
To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
vinil1982 wrote:
Yes...things around the world right situation shows we are living in the last days.
According to Christian prognosticators we have been living in 'the last days' for two thousand years. That makes about a hundred generations living under the threat from doomsday tales -- with many anxiously awaiting the return of their 'savior'.
It might not be wise to stand on one foot waiting.
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Non-Theist
ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence