Anyone got proof of God

[nine dog war]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

[Fisherking]

Atheism and theism are twins just as life and death are twins- good and evil even- but what is deemed truly "GOD" is i the indivisible that has not hinged on any other thing

Evil cannot exist on its own without something good to corrupt or twist.

[McCulloch]

Proof of God- Every pagan goes up to his own temple- Every atheist must contemplate the very existence of God to come to his conclusion - THERE IS NO GOD- that is what some say

God is real because many people believe in God? God is real because atheists must contemplate God's existence in order to become atheists?

Some seek empirical proof of God - others seek only after the vanities of their heart- If both seek both will be rewarded with what he seeks- The one seeking proof of God will find him and the other seeking after what is vain will also find it to the destruction of his soul.

The one seeking proof of God does not find proof of God, he or she may find something that convinces him or her that God exists, but it does not stand up to any reliable definition of proof.

Atheism and theism are twins just as life and death are twins- good and evil even- but what is deemed truly "GOD" is i the indivisible that has not hinged on any other thing

It is that which is alone conscious of its existence

I have little idea what these words mean.

[Biker]

The one seeking proof of God does not find proof of God, he or she may find something that convinces him or her that God exists, but it does not stand up to any reliable definition of proof.

Oh really! Explain, in detail, your proof, beyond all doubt, undeniably, that God, does not exist?


Biker

[Amp]

Hey, If Exsistence/Reality itself is 'God' (very limited approach to the concept).
Then the evidence is as undeniable as reality.

Regards,

Amp

[achilles12604]

Hey, If Exsistence/Reality itself is 'God' (very limited approach to the concept).
Then the evidence is as undeniable as reality.

Regards,

Amp

So you're saying that everything around us is all part of "god"? Kinda like the force?

[McCulloch]

The one seeking proof of God does not find proof of God, he or she may find something that convinces him or her that God exists, but it does not stand up to any reliable definition of proof.

Oh really! Explain, in detail, your proof, beyond all doubt, undeniably, that God, does not exist?

I have not made such a claim. My claim is that of all the alleged proofs that I have seen for God's existence, none of them measure up to an objective standard of proof. Is it rational to believe in something simply because you cannot disprove it?

Hey, If Exsistence/Reality itself is 'God' (very limited approach to the concept).
Then the evidence is as undeniable as reality.

It is a much more difficult task to discredit the deist or pantheist version of God than it is to disprove the Christian notion of God.

[Greatest I Am]

I was thinking back to when I did not believe to see what I would have needed to believe.

No new old document would do it regardless of content. No new words of wisdom would do. Personal revelation would likely do it but those are relatively rare and seldom believed by others. Further a true blue non believer may be able to rationalize away the experience. Those that talk to or have a relation with God on a regular basis are rightly labeled not quite there.

This leaves very little for non believer to latch on to if they want to believe, in fact I may have eliminated all forms of information.

If so, this means that there can be no proof except for miracles or a return of a deity. Right?

Regards
DL

[Ashlady]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

You question presupposes that you who denies God's existence has been honest and thorough in an unbiased effort on an issue that you catagorically reject.
Fact: The basic question of the creation of matter/energy from absolutely nothing is not an area that can be scientifically explored, this is an area that the scientist do not even try to answer-- it is totally beyond the capacity of science to explain and explore.
It's like asking: How did the structure or generation of DNA occur?
The answer is always the same, that is not a question that falls within the realm of science."
I guess this is what Lord Kelvin, a very famous British scientist, described in his writings when he made the statement, "If you study science deep enough and long enough it will force you to believe in God."
Now Because you declare yourself an atheist, it does not give you the right to be the boss of all conversations and therefore the dictators of dialog.
Having read many web pages of atheist beliefs I know for a fact, that your own educated community will not state there is no God
instead they attack people that are not very familiar with the Word of God.
The way you have stated your post you are saying that atheists exist because you have thoroughly proved God doesn't exist, which means that you have found evidence that proves God's doesn't exist.
"And So What Is It"?
Lets see and examine the PROOF that God does NOT exist.
See here is the problem on this subject:
Fact one: There is no proof God exists or ever existed.
Fact Two: It is impossible to prove a "spirit" exists with physical matter.
Fact Three: because of facts one and two, proving God exists or existed is impossible.
Now, since a human physical being is limited to his own universe,the subject is ALL speculation
The atheist is as much a fool as the believer in God, they are equal fools according to the same logic and reason.
So I ask you, "Who's fool are you ??"
I'm a fool for Jesus.........I believe in
In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word Was God.
You believe........"In the beginning were the particles and the impersonal laws of physics." The particles somehow became complex living stuff, and the stuff imagined God.
So again I ask "Who's fool are you.
Ash.......

[Furrowed Brow]

Fact one: There is no proof God exists or ever existed.

Agreed.

Fact Two: It is impossible to prove a "spirit" exists with physical matter.

Agreed.

Fact Three: because of facts one and two, proving God exists or existed is impossible.

Agreed

Now, since a human physical being is limited to his own universe, the subject is ALL speculation.

Disagree. This is not an epistemological problem where the atheist and theists are vying for who knows the truth of the matter. This is a matter of the internal logic and ontological commitments.

Take fact two. As an atheist who signs up to the scientific method I’d like to be able to test for “spirit”. But it is the theist who tells me that is impossible because spirit is not physical. If the theist’s definition is true then fact two is correct. But what then does “spirit” mean? We can’t weigh it, test it, see it, feel it…no hang on I think the theist might say something like they have a relationship with God and I take this express a subjective feeling on the part of the theist. But through what means does this relationship take place? I think the answer is going to be the introduction of another concept, viz., the soul. And how does the soul interact with the body? Ah now the problem of dualism rears up.

As an atheist I do not reject the notion of spirit because of Fact Two alone. I reject the idea because the theist introduces me to some muddled metaphsyics. Moreover it is a conceptual muddle that requires an ontological commitment to an alternative mode of being. That seems a big commitment to make on the basis of a conceptual muddle. Or am am I supposed to accept the muddle on the basis of making a prioir ontological commitment to there being something called spirit. Either way when the theist adds the limitation that this muddle cannot be proved I am going to wholeheartedly agree.

The atheist is as much a fool as the believer in God, they are equal fools according to the same logic and reason.

Well no. My logic and reason say the term “spirit” don’t make sense. That is a completely logic and reason to any that can come to the conclusion that it does make sense.

So I ask you, "Who's fool are you ??"

I make no claim to not being a fool. However I am not a theist fool.

[Amp]

So you're saying that everything around us is all part of "god"? Kinda like the force?

Yes, more precisely, everything exists in God. Matter, Anti-Matter, Forces(Strong, Electro-Weak, Gravity (or Space-Time Curvature), as well as, Space-Time.