Christians, you contend we are not supposed to have sex before we are MARRIED.
What is wrong with a couple who have been together for a long time having sex before they get married?
If you buy a car, or a house, dont you want to check it out before you buy it?
What if you are moving towards getting married? Dont you want to know what the person you will spend the rest of your life with looks like naked? And there's practical issues too. I dont want to get too graphic here, but the tightness of the female v***** varies from individual to individual, and the thickness of the male p**** varies from individual to individual. Dont you want to make sure your organs are compatible and not mismatched? Dont you want to know what your partner smells and tastes like? Dont you want to know if the female is or isnt allergic to your semen? Dont you want to know if your partner is frigid and non expressive or vibrant and expressive? Dont you want to know if your partner is down for trying a lot or is not open to much more than missionary?
Oh but no, you and God tell us we are supposed to basically do a blind buy with respect to one of the most important aspects of a normal marriage.
Yeah, sorry, but im going with reason here.
What is wrong with sex before marriage?
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Post #1If it turns out there are one or more gods, then so be it.
If it turns out there are no gods, then thank reality that no one is going to suffer forever.
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Post #31Unless one is king David. In that case, a war hero gets murdered not either of the guilty parties. Oh, and an innocent child is killed by God. Who knows what other Biblical characters got away with?JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:31 am Sleeping with another man's wife was probably a fast way to get yourself killed.
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I disagree. The Bible's advice will always be the best and never outdated. Our God knows best for us, He sees the full picture as we never can.
Whose advice and guidance should be take instead?
I disagree. The Bible's advice will always be the best and never outdated. Our God knows best for us, He sees the full picture as we never can.
Whose advice and guidance should be take instead?
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Post #33The newest bits of the Bible are around two thousand years old. It is the very definition of outdated. Your God can't be shown to exist outside of the imagination of those who imagine its existence. The Bible is based on that outdated human knowledge. Much better to rely on updated human knowledge especially that which doesn't rely on the mythology of god/gods.Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 8:47 am [Replying to Tcg in post #30]
I disagree. The Bible's advice will always be the best and never outdated. Our God knows best for us, He sees the full picture as we never can.
Whose advice and guidance should be take instead?
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Post #34[Replying to Tcg in post #33]
God and His son Jesus and the Holy Spirit are here. It is they as One in whom resides my trust, not in any human.
We shall just disagree on this, no doubt.
God and His son Jesus and the Holy Spirit are here. It is they as One in whom resides my trust, not in any human.
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Post #35Yes, they reside in your trust. It/they can't be shown to exist anywhere else. Their supposed existence depends on the humans that imagine them.Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 9:59 am [Replying to Tcg in post #33]
God and His son Jesus and the Holy Spirit are here. It is they as One in whom resides my trust, not in any human.
We shall just disagree on this, no doubt.
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Along with millions of other Christians too of course. We have faith which brings peace and meaning to life.
Along with millions of other Christians too of course. We have faith which brings peace and meaning to life.
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Post #37Of course, your faith, and that of millions of others, serves a function. That doesn't establish that your faith is based on factual reality. Herion addicts also find peace and meaning to life by relying on their particular fix.Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 10:45 am [Replying to Tcg in post #35]
Along with millions of other Christians too of course. We have faith which brings peace and meaning to life.
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Post #39Other than ignoring the gift of this life while dreaming of one that will never come.Rose2020 wrote: ↑Tue May 10, 2022 11:30 am [Replying to Tcg in post #37]
We get no bad side effects!
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Post #40[Replying to Tcg in post #39]
Well, that we will see. I have no doubt whatsoever it will be beyond imagination.
Well, that we will see. I have no doubt whatsoever it will be beyond imagination.