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Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
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Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #1Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #41Good googly moogly, ain't nobody said em nothing about no rape. What are these weird sexual things Christians read into stuff?Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:35 amSo you are warring with a man over a woman and another man comes sweeps Billy Bob off his feet - is that rape you are talking about? Why would Billy Bob get swept off his feet by a guy, is he bisexual?If I'm warring with Billy Bob cause he too fancies Jane, and along comes Studly Doright to sweep Billy Bob off his feet, now me and Jane can hook up and have us a young'n, til it is, she too fancies ol Studly Doright there, and them two, or three, they raise up my child without my investment, and now I'm freed up to fetch after Cindy Lou, who she doesn't like that other bunch anyway, cause they used to tease her for wearing glasses.
You have a kid with Jane and then she ditches you for Studly and has two more and you get with Cindy Lou.
How does Billy Bob continue his generations in this scenario? Why would Studly care about your offspring with Jane. This scenario ....
Homosexuality might reduce tensions within a group, such that heterosexual copulation can become easier, thus more productive.
For every gay man, my chances with the ladies increase. If for that alone, I, for one, am pro homosexuality. I don't even hafta know they deserve their rights just for being human. I just hafta know it increases my odds.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #42How does it help Billy Bob?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:45 am Good googly moogly, ain't nobody said em nothing about no rape. What are these weird sexual things Christians read into stuff?
Homosexuality might reduce tensions within a group, such that heterosexual copulation can become easier, thus more productive.
For every gay man, my chances with the ladies increase. If for that alone, I, for one, am pro homosexuality. I don't even hafta know they deserve their rights just for being human. I just hafta know it increases my odds.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #43In a better society, having not been stoned to death, he would live his life free from religious or other types of oppression or suppression.Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:24 amHow does it help Billy Bob?JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:45 am Good googly moogly, ain't nobody said em nothing about no rape. What are these weird sexual things Christians read into stuff?
Homosexuality might reduce tensions within a group, such that heterosexual copulation can become easier, thus more productive.
For every gay man, my chances with the ladies increase. If for that alone, I, for one, am pro homosexuality. I don't even hafta know they deserve their rights just for being human. I just hafta know it increases my odds.
Evolution only requires good enough. As long as a sufficient number survive to do the gene passing along, well there we go.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #44So how is homosexuality benefiting him? Chance of getting stoned and not reproducing. Studly Doright just used him. Anyway enough sadness.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:53 am In a better society, having not been stoned to death, he would live his life free from religious or other types of oppression or suppression.
Evolution only requires good enough. As long as a sufficient number survive to do the gene passing along, well there we go.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #45Oh c'mon.Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:22 amSo how is homosexuality benefiting him? Chance of getting stoned and not reproducing. Studly Doright just used him. Anyway enough sadness.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:53 am In a better society, having not been stoned to death, he would live his life free from religious or other types of oppression or suppression.
Evolution only requires good enough. As long as a sufficient number survive to do the gene passing along, well there we go.
The point is that where homosexuals exist, even if they don't reproduce, their presence can help the tribe's reproduction by reducing conflict.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #46I want to ignore the actual point and instead wonder if the color of the shirt he put on in the morning changes the way his orange juice tastes.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:56 amOh c'mon.Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:22 amSo how is homosexuality benefiting him? Chance of getting stoned and not reproducing. Studly Doright just used him. Anyway enough sadness.JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:53 am In a better society, having not been stoned to death, he would live his life free from religious or other types of oppression or suppression.
Evolution only requires good enough. As long as a sufficient number survive to do the gene passing along, well there we go.
The point is that where homosexuals exist, even if they don't reproduce, their presence can help the tribe's reproduction by reducing conflict.
So, since I'm ignoring the benefits of homosexuality, I'm going to inquire about his shirt color.
Seems to me to be what is going on.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #47[Replying to Clownboat in post #46]
Is this (that Joey gets to mate) a legitimate benefit of homosexuality that you agree with? is there evidence for that being the purpose of homosexuality? How do homosexuals feel about that?
Since it seems to me that Joey only got to mate because of homosexuality perhaps Joey wasn't actually fit enough to mate and the population fitness decreased because of homosexuality?
Is this (that Joey gets to mate) a legitimate benefit of homosexuality that you agree with? is there evidence for that being the purpose of homosexuality? How do homosexuals feel about that?
Since it seems to me that Joey only got to mate because of homosexuality perhaps Joey wasn't actually fit enough to mate and the population fitness decreased because of homosexuality?
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #48Naw, I'm fit enough, it's just that increased competition introduces stresses in the system, whereas when homosexuality is introduced, stresses're lessened.Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:54 pm [Replying to Clownboat in post #46]
Is this (that Joey gets to mate) a legitimate benefit of homosexuality that you agree with? is there evidence for that being the purpose of homosexuality? How do homosexuals feel about that?
Since it seems to me that Joey only got to mate because of homosexuality perhaps Joey wasn't actually fit enough to mate and the population fitness decreased because of homosexuality?
As to how homosexuals feel about it, with the miracle of modern science, they too can reproduce.
Now, as to how a good bunch of Christians feel about it...
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #49[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #48]
In my experience Christians and religious people have larger families and ignore the world as best they can.
In my experience Christians and religious people have larger families and ignore the world as best they can.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Homosexuality: nature or nurture?
Post #50In my experience Christians infiltrate government at all levels in an effort to impose their unfounded beliefs onto others, separation of church and state be danged.Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:11 pm [Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #48]
In my experience Christians and religious people have larger families and ignore the world as best they can.
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