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Pharisees' request for a sign from the Messiah

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When responding to the Pharisees' request for a sign, why do you suppose the Messiah made the specific point that He would be in the "heart of the earth" for 3 days and 3 nights?

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The Nice Centurion wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 11:20 pm [Replying to TRANSPONDER in post #10]
Perhaps . . . Perhaps the centurions who had the mission to guard Jesus tomb, had their free weekend.
So they left their place on friday to go home and celebrate Easter and celebrate the resurrection of Christ!

Do you not too think so?
:D Nice one. I like it. However, the centurions (there may have been two, one at Caesarea and the other (possibly Nautius Maximus) in the Jerusalem garrison. would hardly have done the guarding of the tomb (if you can believe it) themselves.
bjs1 wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 9:24 pm
rstrats wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:06 am What do you think the scribes and Pharisees were looking for when they asked for a sign?
I imagine that they were looking for a miracle. They wanted a spectacle of some kind. They wanted to see Jesus jump off a high building and be caught by angels, or turn stones in to bread or something like that. Herod wanted the same from Jesus during the last week of Jesus' life.
They already had that. Jesus majicked a meal for 5,000 out of scraps and raised people from the dead or sickness. John even call these 'signs'. What was wanted was some Cosmic sign from God that the lase Days were coming so they could prepare. Jesus answer is that there ill be no sign as well as saying there are signs they should be able to tell (who said the bible had to make sense?) other than his own resurrection.

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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
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:D I agree. That's just what it is - in the gospels. Believe it or not. The Jewish messiah should liberate Israel but the Christian messiah has the message 'Click allow cookies, pestiferous notifications and permission to access your private data, or you don't get admission into my site'.

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In modern days Israel sure could use a coming of a messiah to liberaye them from the arabs and tourists.

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The Nice Centurion wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 7:38 pm In modern days Israel sure could use a coming of a messiah to liberaye them from the arabs and tourists.
I feel I'm in hot potato territory here, but I don't know whether everyone is waiting for the Last Days to happen and see just which side God is on, whether there is a sizeable movement to help things along with knocking down the Golden mosque and rebuilding the temple, a flurry of shootings and car - bombings in response and a general carpet bombing by the US just to get Armageddon going, I know there's some who would like to see it.

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bjs1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:37 pm

I am not sure that he did.
I wonder why He didn't just stick with what He told them in Mark 8:12?

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rstrats wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:49 pm
bjs1 wrote: Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:37 pm

I am not sure that he did.
I wonder why He didn't just stick with what He told them in Mark 8:12?
This is one of several themes that are repeated in different ways throughout the gospel. As hinted at above, we also see aspects of this theme in the temptation of Jesus and in his trial before Herod.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.
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