SABBATH...

[Capbook]

Is the Lord's Sabbath in the OT still for God's people in the NT?

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment

[myth-one.com]

"Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period.

No, it has to do with the rising and setting of the sun.

[Capbook]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

[onewithhim]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

You didn't read my post, did you?

[Capbook]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

You didn't read my post, did you?

I did read your post. You didn't read mine. Your biggest hurdle in your many thousand years interpretation makes your god not all knowing.
And lexicon define "day" in Gen 2:4 find below, and many thousand years is not one of them.
OT:3117
day, time, year
a) a day (as opposed to night)
b) a day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Gen 1
2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey
c) days, lifetime (plural)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)

[onewithhim]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

You didn't read my post, did you?

I did read your post. You didn't read mine. Your biggest hurdle in your many thousand years interpretation makes your god not all knowing.
And lexicon define "day" in Gen 2:4 find below, and many thousand years is not one of them.
OT:3117
day, time, year
a) a day (as opposed to night)
b) a day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Gen 1
2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey
c) days, lifetime (plural)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)

Look at your own list! Do you see point "d"? A day can refer to a a general time period, not necessarily a 24 hour period.

[Capbook]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

You didn't read my post, did you?

I did read your post. You didn't read mine. Your biggest hurdle in your many thousand years interpretation makes your god not all knowing.
And lexicon define "day" in Gen 2:4 find below, and many thousand years is not one of them.
OT:3117
day, time, year
a) a day (as opposed to night)
b) a day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Gen 1
2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey
c) days, lifetime (plural)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)

Look at your own list! Do you see point "d"? A day can refer to a a general time period, not necessarily a 24 hour period.

Does it says many thousand years?
That makes your god not all knowing?

[onewithhim]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

You didn't read my post, did you?

I did read your post. You didn't read mine. Your biggest hurdle in your many thousand years interpretation makes your god not all knowing.
And lexicon define "day" in Gen 2:4 find below, and many thousand years is not one of them.
OT:3117
day, time, year
a) a day (as opposed to night)
b) a day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Gen 1
2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey
c) days, lifetime (plural)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)

Look at your own list! Do you see point "d"? A day can refer to a a general time period, not necessarily a 24 hour period.

Does it says many thousand years?
That makes your god not all knowing?

It says "a general time period," meaning of no particular length of time. Therefore 24-hour "days" are not necessary. They could be any length.
What has that got to do with God being all-knowing or not? Please explain.

[Capbook]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length? Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration. "Evening and morning" simply refers to the ending and the beginning of a time period. "The evening of my life" means that my life is over. "Morning" is a new day of undetermined length. This can be seen also at Genesis 2:4 which says: "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heavens."

Following your reasoning, this says that God created the heavens and the earth in one day. Isn't it obvious that this "day" is a period of undetermined length? So "day" doesn't necessarily mean 24 hours long.

Would you accept if your interpretation of the creation week as many thousands of years, makes your god not all knowing?
The true God knows all things, He created the fowls and its kind in the fifth day of the creation week.
And many thousand years had passed, per your interpretation, the fowls does no know what their foods are.
As God informed Adam what fowls food are only on the sixth day of creation.
If you explain that fowls have instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation.
That makes your god knows nothing that the fowls were already eating such food many thousand years ago.

You didn't read my post, did you?

I did read your post. You didn't read mine. Your biggest hurdle in your many thousand years interpretation makes your god not all knowing.
And lexicon define "day" in Gen 2:4 find below, and many thousand years is not one of them.
OT:3117
day, time, year
a) a day (as opposed to night)
b) a day (24 hour period)
1) as defined by evening and morning in Gen 1
2) as a division of time; a working day, a day's journey
c) days, lifetime (plural)
d) time, period (general)
e) year
f) temporal references
1) today
2) yesterday
3) tomorrow
(from The Online Bible Thayer's Greek Lexicon and Brown Driver & Briggs Hebrew Lexicon, Copyright © 1993, Woodside Bible Fellowship, Ontario, Canada. Licensed from the Institute for Creation Research.)

Look at your own list! Do you see point "d"? A day can refer to a a general time period, not necessarily a 24 hour period.

Does it says many thousand years?
That makes your god not all knowing?

It says "a general time period," meaning of no particular length of time. Therefore 24-hour "days" are not necessary. They could be any length.
What has that got to do with God being all-knowing or not? Please explain.

Genesis 1:11(Third day of creation) God created vegetation but no mention about it being food.
Many thousand years passed......
(Fourth day of creation)
Many thousand years passed......
Gen 1:20 (Fifth day of creation) God created the fowls and its every kind.
Many thousand years passed......
Gen 1:30 (Sixth day of creation) God inform the fowls of what their food is. Do fowls survived many thousand year not knowing what their food is?

This is what I mean, fowls were created in the fifth day of creation. Per JW interpretation a day in the creation week would be a many thousand years shall passed. After a many thousand years had passed (the sixth day) God inform Adam what the fowls food are. Can fowls survived without knowing what food to eat? As I understand, JW said fowls had instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation week.
Do your god not all knowing? Informing Adam on the sixth what fowls food are, not knowing that the fowls were already eating many thousand years ago?

[John17_3]

[Replying to Capbook in post #248]

Genesis 1:11(Third day of creation) God created vegetation but no mention about it being food.
Many thousand years passed......
(Fourth day of creation)
Many thousand years passed......
Gen 1:20 (Fifth day of creation) God created the fowls and its every kind.
Many thousand years passed......
Gen 1:30 (Sixth day of creation) God inform the fowls of what their food is. Do fowls survived many thousand year not knowing what their food is?

This is what I mean, fowls were created in the fifth day of creation. Per JW interpretation a day in the creation week would be a many thousand years shall passed. After a many thousand years had passed (the sixth day) God inform Adam what the fowls food are. Can fowls survived without knowing what food to eat? As I understand, JW said fowls had instinct, eating the vegetation created on the third day of creation week.
Do your god not all knowing? Informing Adam on the sixth what fowls food are, not knowing that the fowls were already eating many thousand years ago?

Please read Genesis 1:29, 30
God is not here telling the fowls what do eat.
Did you notice that, God is communicating with the human creation.
The animals already know what to eat. It is built into their genome. They don't need instruction, as if they are intelligent humans.

[myth-one.com]

The works of creation were thousands of years long, not 24 hour days.

Genesis 1:5
And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Genesis 1:8
And the evening and the morning were the second day.

Genesis 1:13
And the evening and the morning were the third day.

Genesis 1:19
And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Genesis 1:23
And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

Genesis 1:31
And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Have you read Genesis?

Yes, and they aren't 24 hour days. Can you not see that the "days" are of undetermined length?

They are of a determined length of an evening plus a morning.

Science says that the earth is 5 billion years old. That aligns with the fact that the days were not 24 hours in duration.

How so?

What does the age of the earth have to do with how long it took God to create it?

Adam and Eve can be traced to about 6,000 years ago.

But apparently God created the original heaven and earth about 5 billion years ago according to the scientists.