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Why was Jesus sent?

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Let’s begin with the following: notice that Jesus' earthly ministry had nothing to do with the Gentiles. He explicitly stated that His mission was directed to Israel.
Matthew 15:24, “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”
His instructions to the Twelve: Matthew 10:5–6, “Go not into the way of the Gentiles… But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Question: “For what purpose did the Father send his Son to Israel?” It was to fulfill the Old Testament prophecy about Israel’s Messiah.
Romans 15:8, “Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.” The “circumcision” refers to Israel. His mission confirmed the covenants and prophecies given to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and David.

Jesus was sent to call Israel to repentance and prepare them for the kingdom. John the Baptist and Jesus both preached the same message:
Matthew 3:2, John said, “Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.”
Matthew 4:17, Jesus said, “Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” The kingdom was promised to Israel, 2 Samuel 7; Isaiah 9; Daniel 2, 7.

The prophets foretold that only a remnant of Jews would believe.
Isaiah 10:21–22, “A remnant shall return;” Verse 22, “Yet a remnant of them shall return.”
John 1:11–12, “He (Jesus) came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, to them that believe on his name:” So, his ministry sifted Israel, revealing who would believe.

He came to offer salvation to Israel first, but later, Paul explains the order, Romans 1:16, “To the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

Jesus came to reveal Himself as Israel’s promised King and Shepherd.
Matthew 21:5, “Behold, thy King cometh unto thee…”
Ezekiel 34:23 was a future prophecy, “I will set up one shepherd over them.”

When he comes, he identifies Himself as that Shepherd: John 10:11, “I am the good shepherd.”
He came to fulfill the law and the prophets. Matthew 5:17, “I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. To conclude, His ministry to Israel completed the prophetic requirements of the Messiah.

Question: “Did Jesus’ mission later expand beyond Israel?” It did, but only after His resurrection.
His post-resurrection command: Matthew 28:19, “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations…”
Mark 16:15, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.” So, the universal mission came only after His earthly ministry to Israel. And how was he going to accomplish this universal mission? It would be through men like Paul.

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Re: Why was Jesus sent?

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OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 1:20 am
BruceLeiter wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 10:57 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #48]

Whoever told you, @OneJack, that the Book was God. Since God inspired it, it is his revelation to us for our benefit and spiritual growth because we aren't perfect yet. That only happens with our bodily resurrections.
God reveals Himself to mankind through Himself only, not through the Bible, which you presume upon yourself, Bruce. Why can’t you put your trust in God alone? Why do you have to anchor the Lord to the bible?
OneJack, the event that untested spirit that comes to your family I believe is not among the list God said in the last days. (Acts 2:17)
1. will prophesy,
2. see visions,
3. dream dreams.

As you've mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong, the untested spirit spoke to your family through that boy, an event not included in the above list.

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 

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And who besides your false Jesus told you that God only reveals himself directly, @OneJack? The Bible says that God uses his creation to reveal his divine power. Paul declares that the creation's rejection of their Creator by ignoring him in his creation is their basic sin. Did your "Jesus" deny that truth too? If so, you might consider rejecting that person's teachings.

Psa 19:1  To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. 
Psa 19:2  Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. 
Psa 19:3  There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. 

Rom 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 
Rom 1:19  For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 
Rom 1:20  For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 

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BruceLeiter wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 1:35 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #50]

And who besides your false Jesus told you that God only reveals himself directly, @OneJack?
What evidence do you have from someone higher than the Lord Jesus to prove your accusation that Jesus is false? The bible is a book that cannot speak; the one who speaks is Bruce, not the bible. Bruce is giving his opinion every time he reads and study the bible.
Paul declares that the creation's rejection of their Creator by ignoring him in his creation is their basic sin. Did your "Jesus" deny that truth too? If so, you might consider rejecting that person's teachings.
Paul is long gone, and there is no way you can prove that the words written under Paul's epistles in the bible are the original words written and uttered by Paul. You need the Lord Jesus to know the truth behind Paul's epistles.
Psa 19:1  To the choirmaster. A Psalm of David. The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. 
Psa 19:2  Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. 
Psa 19:3  There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. 

Rom 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 
Rom 1:19  For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 
Rom 1:20  For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 
Since Paul is long gone, you need the Lord to know the exact meaning of the theme that Paul was conveying in the above verses, don't you?

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Capbook wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 2:57 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 1:20 am
BruceLeiter wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 10:57 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #48]

Whoever told you, @OneJack, that the Book was God. Since God inspired it, it is his revelation to us for our benefit and spiritual growth because we aren't perfect yet. That only happens with our bodily resurrections.
God reveals Himself to mankind through Himself only, not through the Bible, which you presume upon yourself, Bruce. Why can’t you put your trust in God alone? Why do you have to anchor the Lord to the bible?
OneJack, the event that untested spirit that comes to your family I believe is not among the list God said in the last days. (Acts 2:17)
1. will prophesy,
2. see visions,
3. dream dreams.

As you've mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong, the untested spirit spoke to your family through that boy, an event not included in the above list.

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 
Wake up, Capbook, don't you see here you're putting God and Jesus in a box (bible)? Have a sane mind that Jesus is not bound and limited by anything, even by the bible.

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[Replying to OneJack in post #53]

How can you prove that the person who talked to you was the real Jesus, @OneJack?

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BruceLeiter wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 11:02 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #53]

How can you prove that the person who talked to you was the real Jesus, @OneJack?
He proved Himself to us He is the Almighty God, He's able to read what's in our minds instantly, and He brought our spirit to His dwelling place.

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OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 11:06 pm
BruceLeiter wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 11:02 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #53]

How can you prove that the person who talked to you was the real Jesus, @OneJack?
He proved Himself to us He is the Almighty God, He's able to read what's in our minds instantly ....

What scientists can do now

Researchers in fields like Neuroscience and Brain–Computer Interfaces have made impressive progress in interpreting brain activity.

Using tools like:

Electroencephalography (EEG)
Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI)

they can:

Detect general thoughts or intentions
For example, whether someone is thinking about moving their left or right hand.
Reconstruct rough images or words
In controlled lab settings, AI models can guess what image a person is looking at or approximate words they’re trying to say.
Decode speech attempts
In some cases, people who cannot speak can “type” using only brain signals.

A major milestone

In recent years, systems using AI and brain scans have been able to turn brain activity into text with surprising accuracy ...


Source ChatGpT
So humans using modern science are capable of reading brain activity, humans through hypnosis are capable of controlling people's mind, if you know anything about MK Ultra and brain to skull technology, humans are capable of implanting thoughts (that their victims believe are their own) and controlling human activity but you seriously suggest that Satan with his VASTLY superior intelligence and power cannot read or more likely implant thoughts into a human? What is spirit possession (as with for example a 14 year old boy ) if not controlling minds. "Reading" your minds would be a simple party trick for Satan.
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Re: Why was Jesus sent?

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OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 9:18 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 2:57 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 1:20 am
BruceLeiter wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 10:57 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #48]

Whoever told you, @OneJack, that the Book was God. Since God inspired it, it is his revelation to us for our benefit and spiritual growth because we aren't perfect yet. That only happens with our bodily resurrections.
God reveals Himself to mankind through Himself only, not through the Bible, which you presume upon yourself, Bruce. Why can’t you put your trust in God alone? Why do you have to anchor the Lord to the bible?
OneJack, the event that untested spirit that comes to your family I believe is not among the list God said in the last days. (Acts 2:17)
1. will prophesy,
2. see visions,
3. dream dreams.

As you've mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong, the untested spirit spoke to your family through that boy, an event not included in the above list.

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 
Wake up, Capbook, don't you see here you're putting God and Jesus in a box (bible)? Have a sane mind that Jesus is not bound and limited by anything, even by the bible.
OneJack, always be aware that the defense Jesus used against the devil in their face to face encounter was "it is written," I just believe you didn't do it as your untested spirit would never teach you that.

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Re: Why was Jesus sent?

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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 1:15 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 11:06 pm
BruceLeiter wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 11:02 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #53]

How can you prove that the person who talked to you was the real Jesus, @OneJack?
He proved Himself to us He is the Almighty God, He's able to read what's in our minds instantly ....

What scientists can do now

Researchers in fields like Neuroscience and Brain–Computer Interfaces have made impressive progress in interpreting brain activity.

Using tools like:

Electroencephalography (EEG)
Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging (fMRI)

they can:

Detect general thoughts or intentions
For example, whether someone is thinking about moving their left or right hand.
Reconstruct rough images or words
In controlled lab settings, AI models can guess what image a person is looking at or approximate words they’re trying to say.
Decode speech attempts
In some cases, people who cannot speak can “type” using only brain signals.

A major milestone

In recent years, systems using AI and brain scans have been able to turn brain activity into text with surprising accuracy ...


Source ChatGpT
So humans using modern science are capable of reading brain activity, humans through hypnosis are capable of controlling people's mind, if you know anything about MK Ultra and brain to skull technology, humans are capable of implanting thoughts (that their victims believe are their own) and controlling human activity but you seriously suggest that Satan with his VASTLY superior intelligence and power cannot read or more likely implant thoughts into a human? What is spirit possession (as with for example a 14 year old boy ) if not controlling minds. "Reading" your minds would be a simple party trick for Satan.
You’re making things and evil spirits as if they were God to make a nonsense point. Did we use those machines??? Satan is not omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent for you to elevate him to the stead of God.

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Capbook wrote: Sun May 03, 2026 1:35 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 9:18 pm
Capbook wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 2:57 am
OneJack wrote: Sat May 02, 2026 1:20 am
BruceLeiter wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 10:57 pm [Replying to OneJack in post #48]

Whoever told you, @OneJack, that the Book was God. Since God inspired it, it is his revelation to us for our benefit and spiritual growth because we aren't perfect yet. That only happens with our bodily resurrections.
God reveals Himself to mankind through Himself only, not through the Bible, which you presume upon yourself, Bruce. Why can’t you put your trust in God alone? Why do you have to anchor the Lord to the bible?
OneJack, the event that untested spirit that comes to your family I believe is not among the list God said in the last days. (Acts 2:17)
1. will prophesy,
2. see visions,
3. dream dreams.

As you've mentioned, correct me if I'm wrong, the untested spirit spoke to your family through that boy, an event not included in the above list.

Act 2:17  And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 
Wake up, Capbook, don't you see here you're putting God and Jesus in a box (bible)? Have a sane mind that Jesus is not bound and limited by anything, even by the bible.
OneJack, always be aware that the defense Jesus used against the devil in their face to face encounter was "it is written," I just believe you didn't do it as your untested spirit would never teach you that.
Well, I hope you’ll be at peace with your ‘it is written’ all the time. Good luck, Cspbook.

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