And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her.
(1 Samuel 28:6-7)
So Saul died for his transgression which he committed against the Lord, even against the word of the Lord, which he kept not, and also for asking counsel of one that had a familiar spirit, to enquire of it; and enquired not of the Lord
(1Chronicles 10:13-14)
How exactly are these to be reconciled?
Did he or didn't he?
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Re: Did he or didn't he?
Post #202I addressed your response.RBD wrote: ↑Sat Jul 18, 2026 2:49 pmAthetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2026 9:08 pm [Replying to RBD in post #198]
Before you accuse me of dodging a challenge, address my last response in post #196.your dodging the challenge is unfortunate, but typical.Your dodging the challenge is unfortunate, but typical. I was hoping you'd finally use that intellect for something useful, rather than just declaring fault.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2026 8:12 am [Replying to RBD in post #195]
That's an absolutely Orwellian level of doublethink.God in the beginning does not know what we will do, until His Word observes us doing it. And, His Word has observed at once all things we will do, and so God in the beginning knows all things we will do. And yet, He still does not know what we will do, until His Word observes us doing it.
No, there's also the secret of how the gods of Olympus dwell in their mountaintop abode unobserved by mortals.Now this is what we know from all Scripture taken together, and the only secret is how God does know all works from the beginning, and yet still does not know the works, until He observes them.
That secret is answered by the mystery of the Godhead, that is hidden from the foundation of the world, and now revealed to them that believe His words
That secret is answered by the mystery of the gods, that is hidden from the rising of the world out of Chaos, and now revealed to them that believe their story.
You haven't addressed mine.
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