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Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

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Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

Biker?
Why do you waste bandwith instead of answering the question? I wish to know what YOU consider GAY SEX. Can it only be done by homosexuals, as in sodomy between two homosexual partners, and hence, it is homosexuals you are against, and not the act.

Or, do you mean sexual tendencies that do not promote conception? (Which would make any kind of sex that do not promote conception a "sin").


Feel free to answer the question.
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Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

Biker?
Why do you waste bandwith instead of answering the question? I wish to know what YOU consider GAY SEX. Can it only be done by homosexuals, as in sodomy between two homosexual partners, and hence, it is homosexuals you are against, and not the act.

Or, do you mean sexual tendencies that do not promote conception? (Which would make any kind of sex that do not promote conception a "sin").


Feel free to answer the question.
Personal opinion, the smell sort of breaks the mood, also there is an issue of practicality, introducing large intestine bacteria to small intestine bacteria, you get the picture, hemoroids, disease, etc., need I say more?
As to man on man woman on woman, why? Everything about it is just wrong. Physical, emotional, plumbing issues, hairy legs and same equipment don't interest me when it comes to sex.
It reduces sex to purely lust, with no possibility of sharing the miracle of you and your wife creating something as the result of just you and her a part her a part you. Then you both take this result of just you and her and nurture it and love it and see in it part you and part her and it is very fulfilling, something that can't be duplicated any other way, very fulfilling and so basic to life and humanity.
You get the picture?

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Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

Biker?
Why do you waste bandwith instead of answering the question? I wish to know what YOU consider GAY SEX. Can it only be done by homosexuals, as in sodomy between two homosexual partners, and hence, it is homosexuals you are against, and not the act.

Or, do you mean sexual tendencies that do not promote conception? (Which would make any kind of sex that do not promote conception a "sin").


Feel free to answer the question.
Personal opinion, the smell sort of breaks the mood, also there is an issue of practicality, introducing large intestine bacteria to small intestine bacteria, you get the picture, hemoroids, disease, etc., need I say more?
As to man on man woman on woman, why? Everything about it is just wrong. Physical, emotional, plumbing issues, hairy legs and same equipment don't interest me when it comes to sex.
It reduces sex to purely lust, with no possibility of sharing the miracle of you and your wife creating something as the result of just you and her a part her a part you. Then you both take this result of just you and her and nurture it and love it and see in it part you and part her and it is very fulfilling, something that can't be duplicated any other way, very fulfilling and so basic to life and humanity.
You get the picture?

Biker
I see the picture clearly, your subjective opinion is that it is "wrong", and for a man and man, or woman and woman to show the same love you do to your wife, is something wrong.


So then you had no objective objection then?



So hear it all, Homosexuals can not show love to eachother according to Biker, as it is something bad and disgusting, But he, on the other hand, can do so to his wife. Hail hail to the Logic of reason.
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Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

Biker?
Why do you waste bandwith instead of answering the question? I wish to know what YOU consider GAY SEX. Can it only be done by homosexuals, as in sodomy between two homosexual partners, and hence, it is homosexuals you are against, and not the act.

Or, do you mean sexual tendencies that do not promote conception? (Which would make any kind of sex that do not promote conception a "sin").


Feel free to answer the question.
Personal opinion, the smell sort of breaks the mood, also there is an issue of practicality, introducing large intestine bacteria to small intestine bacteria, you get the picture, hemoroids, disease, etc., need I say more?
As to man on man woman on woman, why? Everything about it is just wrong. Physical, emotional, plumbing issues, hairy legs and same equipment don't interest me when it comes to sex.
It reduces sex to purely lust, with no possibility of sharing the miracle of you and your wife creating something as the result of just you and her a part her a part you. Then you both take this result of just you and her and nurture it and love it and see in it part you and part her and it is very fulfilling, something that can't be duplicated any other way, very fulfilling and so basic to life and humanity.
You get the picture?

Biker
I see the picture clearly, your subjective opinion is that it is "wrong", and for a man and man, or woman and woman to show the same love you do to your wife, is something wrong.


So then you had no objective objection then?



So hear it all, Homosexuals can not show love to eachother according to Biker, as it is something bad and disgusting, But he, on the other hand, can do so to his wife. Hail hail to the Logic of reason.
I'm glad you got it Scrotum!

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Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

Biker?
Why do you waste bandwith instead of answering the question? I wish to know what YOU consider GAY SEX. Can it only be done by homosexuals, as in sodomy between two homosexual partners, and hence, it is homosexuals you are against, and not the act.

Or, do you mean sexual tendencies that do not promote conception? (Which would make any kind of sex that do not promote conception a "sin").


Feel free to answer the question.
Personal opinion, the smell sort of breaks the mood, also there is an issue of practicality, introducing large intestine bacteria to small intestine bacteria, you get the picture, hemoroids, disease, etc., need I say more?
As to man on man woman on woman, why? Everything about it is just wrong. Physical, emotional, plumbing issues, hairy legs and same equipment don't interest me when it comes to sex.
It reduces sex to purely lust, with no possibility of sharing the miracle of you and your wife creating something as the result of just you and her a part her a part you. Then you both take this result of just you and her and nurture it and love it and see in it part you and part her and it is very fulfilling, something that can't be duplicated any other way, very fulfilling and so basic to life and humanity.
You get the picture?

Biker
I see the picture clearly, your subjective opinion is that it is "wrong", and for a man and man, or woman and woman to show the same love you do to your wife, is something wrong.


So then you had no objective objection then?



So hear it all, Homosexuals can not show love to eachother according to Biker, as it is something bad and disgusting, But he, on the other hand, can do so to his wife. Hail hail to the Logic of reason.
I'm glad you got it Scrotum!

Biker 8-)
So "love" is only for heterosexuals?

If yes, please explain what constitutes "love".

If no, please explain how that contradiction works with your previous statement.
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Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:
Easyrider wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Why would God nullify the principles of the Mosaic law? If Christians are to behave morally, why not follow the law? Is there something wrong with what the law teaches? Where does it state that culture and time were factors in nullifying the Law?
The Moral Law was never done away with. Murder is still murder; thievery still thievery, adultery still adultery, gay sex still a sin, etc., etc.

Thats right EZ.
AS IS LOVING YOURSELF, MORE THAN GOD!!!

Biker
Does gay sex constitute anal intercourse with ones wife/husband (heterosexual) too?

Or only Woman/Woman Guy/Guy?
Why do you want to know?

Biker?
Why do you waste bandwith instead of answering the question? I wish to know what YOU consider GAY SEX. Can it only be done by homosexuals, as in sodomy between two homosexual partners, and hence, it is homosexuals you are against, and not the act.

Or, do you mean sexual tendencies that do not promote conception? (Which would make any kind of sex that do not promote conception a "sin").


Feel free to answer the question.
Personal opinion, the smell sort of breaks the mood, also there is an issue of practicality, introducing large intestine bacteria to small intestine bacteria, you get the picture, hemoroids, disease, etc., need I say more?
As to man on man woman on woman, why? Everything about it is just wrong. Physical, emotional, plumbing issues, hairy legs and same equipment don't interest me when it comes to sex.
It reduces sex to purely lust, with no possibility of sharing the miracle of you and your wife creating something as the result of just you and her a part her a part you. Then you both take this result of just you and her and nurture it and love it and see in it part you and part her and it is very fulfilling, something that can't be duplicated any other way, very fulfilling and so basic to life and humanity.
You get the picture?

Biker
I see the picture clearly, your subjective opinion is that it is "wrong", and for a man and man, or woman and woman to show the same love you do to your wife, is something wrong.


So then you had no objective objection then?



So hear it all, Homosexuals can not show love to eachother according to Biker, as it is something bad and disgusting, But he, on the other hand, can do so to his wife. Hail hail to the Logic of reason.
I'm glad you got it Scrotum!

Biker 8-)
So "love" is only for heterosexuals?

If yes, please explain what constitutes "love".

If no, please explain how that contradiction works with your previous statement.
Which "love" are you referring to? There are 7 to choose from in the NT?

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Biker wrote:Scrotum,
Oh yeah, I forgot this part it is kind of important.
Gen 1:27 "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;' "
This is right at the beginning of the Bible, 27 verses in. Notice a couple of things here! First, man was created not Darwinized! He did not say He created them male and male, or female and female! He told them to be fruitful and multiply! I am not aware of a male male fruitful deal, or a female female fruitful deal. If they are happening, please let me know, this, I've got to see!
This all seems so simple to me! How do folks get so confused?
Now this is the way God planned it. Deviation from this is called wrong, not normal, perverted, confused, etc., you get the picture.
I'm not making this up this is the established deal!
You all can read it for yourself, Wal-Mart sells these things, they are called Bibles and you can buy one for about $5.00 US.

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A- Hold on, first off, God created "female" after Adam could not find any partner amongst all the other animals he created, so he took his ribs, this passage does not follow that, seems to be a contradiction.


B- Furthermore, does this mean any couple that an not procreate, are eh, wrong? Or is it only the homosexuals you attack, ignoring the others?

C- Also, lets say we have orphan, would you rather they stay orphan, then come to a homosexual family, caring them and giving them a life they deserve? That is just my side-note question, just wondering, if you wish not to answer, it is ok.


The B question was the important one, that one, i would like to have answered. And of course, you should know (if you are educated) that we evolved during hundreds of thousands of years, so i assume you seriously dont think the world is 6000 years old (younger then China), and we where just "made" by God...... non?
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Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:Scrotum,
Oh yeah, I forgot this part it is kind of important.
Gen 1:27 "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;' "
This is right at the beginning of the Bible, 27 verses in. Notice a couple of things here! First, man was created not Darwinized! He did not say He created them male and male, or female and female! He told them to be fruitful and multiply! I am not aware of a male male fruitful deal, or a female female fruitful deal. If they are happening, please let me know, this, I've got to see!
This all seems so simple to me! How do folks get so confused?
Now this is the way God planned it. Deviation from this is called wrong, not normal, perverted, confused, etc., you get the picture.
I'm not making this up this is the established deal!
You all can read it for yourself, Wal-Mart sells these things, they are called Bibles and you can buy one for about $5.00 US.

Biker
A- Hold on, first off, God created "female" after Adam could not find any partner amongst all the other animals he created, so he took his ribs, this passage does not follow that, seems to be a contradiction.


B- Furthermore, does this mean any couple that an not procreate, are eh, wrong? Or is it only the homosexuals you attack, ignoring the others?

C- Also, lets say we have orphan, would you rather they stay orphan, then come to a homosexual family, caring them and giving them a life they deserve? That is just my side-note question, just wondering, if you wish not to answer, it is ok.


The B question was the important one, that one, i would like to have answered. And of course, you should know (if you are educated) that we evolved during hundreds of thousands of years, so i assume you seriously dont think the world is 6000 years old (younger then China), and we where just "made" by God...... non?

I'm not attacking homosexuals I have homosexual friends. Are you attacking Christian believers, and the inerrant word of God?
How do you know we have "evolved"? Could you provide proof for that? I sure would love seeing it, I've read the "scientific" speculative (read guess) interpretation, frankly I'm not impressed at all! You have been brain washed by the public school system religion (secular humanism grist mill) since you were a little child, spoon fed the "theory" so you can't conceive of anything but the "theory"! You should really start thinking for yourself!

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Biker wrote:
Scrotum wrote:
Biker wrote:Scrotum,
Oh yeah, I forgot this part it is kind of important.
Gen 1:27 "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;' "
This is right at the beginning of the Bible, 27 verses in. Notice a couple of things here! First, man was created not Darwinized! He did not say He created them male and male, or female and female! He told them to be fruitful and multiply! I am not aware of a male male fruitful deal, or a female female fruitful deal. If they are happening, please let me know, this, I've got to see!
This all seems so simple to me! How do folks get so confused?
Now this is the way God planned it. Deviation from this is called wrong, not normal, perverted, confused, etc., you get the picture.
I'm not making this up this is the established deal!
You all can read it for yourself, Wal-Mart sells these things, they are called Bibles and you can buy one for about $5.00 US.

Biker
A- Hold on, first off, God created "female" after Adam could not find any partner amongst all the other animals he created, so he took his ribs, this passage does not follow that, seems to be a contradiction.


B- Furthermore, does this mean any couple that an not procreate, are eh, wrong? Or is it only the homosexuals you attack, ignoring the others?

C- Also, lets say we have orphan, would you rather they stay orphan, then come to a homosexual family, caring them and giving them a life they deserve? That is just my side-note question, just wondering, if you wish not to answer, it is ok.


The B question was the important one, that one, i would like to have answered. And of course, you should know (if you are educated) that we evolved during hundreds of thousands of years, so i assume you seriously dont think the world is 6000 years old (younger then China), and we where just "made" by God...... non?

I'm not attacking homosexuals I have homosexual friends. Are you attacking Christian believers, and the inerrant word of God?
How do you know we have "evolved"? Could you provide proof for that? I sure would love seeing it, I've read the "scientific" speculative (read guess) interpretation, frankly I'm not impressed at all! You have been brain washed by the public school system religion (secular humanism grist mill) since you were a little child, spoon fed the "theory" so you can't conceive of anything but the "theory"! You should really start thinking for yourself!

Biker
Eh, no Biker, if you asked me as a 4 yearold child, i would have been able to see that we clearly evolved from other animals seeing the animal kingdom.

But tell me, how do you explin that China is older then the world? (China is a country in Asia btw).
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