Evolutionism, the Odd Man Out.

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Evolutionism, the Odd Man Out.

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Mankind changed from prehistoric to Human just AFTER Noah arrived on this Planet. Civilization was born just South of the Mountains of Ararat, exactly as God told us.

The reason there is No evidence of Human Civilization before Mesopotamia, is that Humanity was inherited from Noah, a direct descendant of the first Human, Adam. Noah's grandsons married the descendants of the sons of God (Prehistoric Man) and produced those with the intelligence necessary to WRITE their own History.

This event took place some 10,000 + - years ago, and History agrees with Scripture. Evolutionism is odd man out, and NO Evol has been able to show us ANY evidence of an Earlier Human Civilization, than that which is listed in Scripture.

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Genesis 1:21 tells us that every living creature that moveth was created from the water on Day 5.

Genesis 2 tells us of Creatures made from the dust. Some people see this as a contradiction, and falsely assume that God made a boo boo.

They are ignorant of the fact that God (Elohim) originally made every Living Creature that moved, from the water, on Day 5. The account of the formation of the beasts of the field and fowl of the air, from the Dust, on the 6th Day, is when YHWH or Jesus sqeezed, as a potter would mould clay, and formed living creatures from the dust of the ground.

The creatures made from the dust were identical to those made from the water, and could produce offspring with the creatures from the water.

Of course the first Living Being made from the dust was man. Man was made on the 3rd Day before the plants and herbs, after the rain. Gen 2:4-7 This gives mankind Preeminence or First Place among all other Living Creatures.

Like the animals made from the dust, mankind also married and produced children with Beings made from the water. That's where Cain's wife came from, and that is who Noah's grandsons married, on this Planet.

We have the DNA of the sons of God (Prehistoric Man) and we also have the Human Intelligence that can ONLY be inherited from Adam, the first Human. Yes, we all descended with modifications from a common ancestor, and his name is Adam.

God created every living creature that moveth, from the water, on the 5th Day, and Jesus produced His Kind from the dust of the ground, on the 6th Day.

Today's "scientists" can't tell us the difference between those creatures made from the water, and those made from the dust. Only Jesus can tell us of His Kinds, which are identical with the Creatures made from the water on the 5th Day.

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hiramabbi2 wrote:Genesis 1:21 tells us that every living creature that moveth was created from the water on Day 5.
The folowing is day 6.
GEN 1:24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.


i don't understand why you would say every living creature that moveth was made on day 5.

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How do you arrive at the 10,000 before present figure, and how do you define "civilization"? Just to prevent goalpost shifting.

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jwu wrote:How do you arrive at the 10,000 before present figure, and how do you define "civilization"? Just to prevent goalpost shifting.
I don't think it really matters how you define civilization. They have picked a time that predates written record, which makes their claim unfalsifiable by archeological means. The era in which civilization developed is irrelevant to the question.

Of course, they must also cling tightly and desperately to the belief that modern science is less reliable than the fables of ancient goatherds.
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perfessor wrote:
jwu wrote:How do you arrive at the 10,000 before present figure, and how do you define "civilization"? Just to prevent goalpost shifting.
I don't think it really matters how you define civilization. They have picked a time that predates written record, which makes their claim unfalsifiable by archeological means. The era in which civilization developed is irrelevant to the question.

Of course, they must also cling tightly and desperately to the belief that modern science is less reliable than the fables of ancient goatherds.
That's exactly the point i was trying to make...i kinda doubt that he will be able to come up with a reasonable derivation of the 10.000 before present figure, which shows that he just chose it because it happens to suit his purposes.

Additionally, without a definition of civilization any evidence of earlier civilizations could be dismissed as "no, that's not a real civilization, just pre-historic stuff", in case that he somehow can provide actual evidence for that number.

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NO Evol has been able to show us ANY evidence of an Earlier Human Civilization
Excuse me a moment while I whip this out...

... Let's see. I got my copy of The Oxford Illustrated History of Ancient Egypt. -flip-flip-flip- When does the History start? Ummmmm.....

c. 700,000 BC

Whew. That might be a little older than 10,000 BC. :)

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Prehistory is just the time before events were recorded; it can't be argued that evolution is the odd man out because evolution has nothing to do with what organisms do with their lives.

Supposing the start of history did begin 10,000 years ago, it would prove nothing except that history began roughly the same time Noah arrived.

And why does a civilization have to have written records to qualify as "humanity?"

Do spoken languages not qualify? Just because a civilization has not turned it's spoken words into symbols, it's not "humanity?" I just don't understand how this can be argued.

10,000 BC, an ancestor language to Coptic (of ancient Egypt) was being spoken by tribes in the Nile valley. Are they not civilized of human because they didn't feel the need to turn this language into something that can be seen?

I don't see how the people of Africa 10,000 BC could be considered not civilizations and not humanity, a good 2000 years before the mark you gave us of 8000 BC.

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YEC wrote:
hiramabbi2 wrote:Genesis 1:21 tells us that every living creature that moveth was created from the water on Day 5.
The folowing is day 6.
GEN 1:24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.

i don't understand why you would say every living creature that moveth was made on day 5.
Dear YEC,

The Creatures made on the 6th day were formed by Jesus himself with his own hand from the dust of the ground. They are identical to the “kinds” of Creatures that were brought forth from the waters on the 5th Day. They can produce offspring with each other, whether they were made from the Dust or the Water.

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Dear Evols,

The 1st Human Cities are more than 9,000 years old and were built by Noah's great grandsons, as it is written in the Scripture. The only area recognized for the beginning of Civilization, on this Planet, is in Mespotoamia, just south of the mountains of Ararat.

That's why they call it the Cradle of Civilization. Reading, Writing and Math all originated with the descendants of Noah, in this area. From this region, all Nations became Human.

I have been waiting for the Evols to produce evidence of human civilization older than that of Mesapotamia based on the criteria above.

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